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canadyjd

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dude get real ! Now look who's acting like a pharisee !! Music wise is related to eastern culture, this is western culture and I really don't think the Lord minds what we sing here, as long as it's solemn.
Please provide biblical support for the assertion the Lord requires our songs to be “solemn”.

You are expressing your desires , your preferences, and then asserting God wants it the way you like it.

I appreciate your point of view and think I understand.

I think you are wrong in your condemnation of others that disagree.

I don’t see this thread producing any edification at all. I’ll leave it to you

Peace to you
 
Please provide biblical support for the assertion the Lord requires our songs to be “solemn”.

You are expressing your desires , your preferences, and then asserting God wants it the way you like it.

I appreciate your point of view and think I understand.

I think you are wrong in your condemnation of others that disagree.

I don’t see this thread producing any edification at all. I’ll leave it to you

Peace to you
solemn as your avatar ? Guess my biggest question is.... why all the diversity within the "Baptist" movement ?

I see multiple women professors at your university you attended... I suffer not a woman to teach... The only place a woman has, scripturally, is to teach younger women in the church how to deal with thier husbands and children.
 
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JonC

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dude get real ! Now look who's acting like a pharisee !! Music wise is related to eastern culture, this is western culture and I really don't think the Lord minds what we sing here, as long as it's solemn. Common English ???? Yeah it's real common, i hear that word at the pulpit, and on the street all the time, everywhere ! Get a life.

What exactly is your baptist back ground, coz us regular folk know baptists as pulpit pounding, evangelists and don't speak your language ! What are you Baptist USA or something like that ?
Why does God want Western people to sing in a solemn manner but told those in the Bible to worship with shouts, loud drums, cymbals and horns?

God literally commanded His people to worship by "playing skillfully with a loud noise", by "clapping hands", "shouting" praise, with "loud cymbals". And yes, that is from the KJV.


I do not know if I have ever heard "vernacular" from the pulpit. But I do not think I have heard many common words (like "school bus", "walrus", "fountain pen", "toe nail",...etc) from the pulpit either.

I was raised in a SBC congregation (since a child). I was saved while in middle school. I have attended SBC churches all of my life (still SBC, attending a church plant).

Church background has nothing to do with knowing English words. I was taught English in the public school system - and did fairly poorly in that subject (my strength was math, and literature).

Funny thing is I attended public schools in Georgia and Tennessee (not particularly known for academic rigor). My son knows "vernacular" (public education in Tennessee and South Carolina, even through the COVID shutdown).


My concern here is you are talking about translations of the Bible in English, talking about the KJV and reference Greek and Hebrew, yet you had no idea what "vernacular" means.

This tells me you are way out of your depth. The NT was written in kione Greek because it was the vernacular.

The Bible could have been written in a more formal, eloquent, concise Greek (Atticism), but God chose the vernacular (the language of ordinary people.... the language people did not have to think about to understand).



You could learn, if you did not come out of the gate with your guns blazing.
 

JonC

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scripture verses please
You are making arguments about how we are to worship and do not know??

You should have consulted God's Word before forming your position.

Here are four that were sung in the Tabernacle (with musical instruments):

Psalm 47 (KJV) O clap your hands, all ye people; shout unto God with the voice of triumph. For the Lord most high is terrible; he is a great King over all the earth.... Sing praises to God, sing praises: sing praises unto our King, sing praises.... The princes of the people are gathered together, even the people of the God of Abraham: for the shields of the earth belong unto God: he is greatly exalted.


Psalm 98 (kjv) O sing unto the Lord a new song... Make a joyful noise unto the Lord, all the earth: make a loud noise, and rejoice, and sing praise. Sing unto the Lord with the harp; with the harp, and the voice of a psalm. With trumpets and sound of cornet make a joyful noise before the Lord, the King.

Psalm 33:3 (kjv) “Sing unto him a new song; play skilfully with a loud noise.”

Psalm 150:5 (kjv) “Praise him upon the loud cymbals: praise him upon the high sounding cymbals.”
 
You are making arguments about how we are to worship and do not know??

You should have consulted God's Word before forming your position.

Here are four that were sung in the Tabernacle (with musical instruments):

Psalm 47 (KJV) O clap your hands, all ye people; shout unto God with the voice of triumph. For the Lord most high is terrible; he is a great King over all the earth.... Sing praises to God, sing praises: sing praises unto our King, sing praises.... The princes of the people are gathered together, even the people of the God of Abraham: for the shields of the earth belong unto God: he is greatly exalted.


Psalm 98 (kjv) O sing unto the Lord a new song... Make a joyful noise unto the Lord, all the earth: make a loud noise, and rejoice, and sing praise. Sing unto the Lord with the harp; with the harp, and the voice of a psalm. With trumpets and sound of cornet make a joyful noise before the Lord, the King.

Psalm 33:3 (kjv) “Sing unto him a new song; play skilfully with a loud noise.”

Psalm 150:5 (kjv) “Praise him upon the loud cymbals: praise him upon the high sounding cymbals.”
that's old testament, give me something NT
 

JonC

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that's old testament, give me something NT
The NT does not describe the worship styles. Why do you think the way God's people sang psalms changed in the NT?


You are just trolling.

You told me (privately, but I am not having that discussion privately) I was being hostile to you because I am a conservative baptist, so I believe women should not be pastors.

Yes. I believe women should not be pastors. But no, that is not being hostile to you. I also believe homosexuality is a sin. But I am not hostile to gay people.

If you are or have a woman pastor that is your business. I believe it is wrong but praise God the gospel is proclaimed.

You are very liberal, demanding everybody hold your views. If they disagree you view that as hostility, as an attack.

I am saying you are wrong. Homosexuality is a sin. Women should not padtor churches. But I am not attacking you.
 

JonC

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Obviously @Its_real_for me ! is trolling. He just became a member, came out of the gate with guns ablaze and has been complaining how others respond to him.

@Its_real_for me ! made remarks about what was visible on a profile over a year ago. He is just a troll.

Not banning him (even trolls need the gospel).

But closing this thread.
 
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