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James 2 explained.

Martin Marprelate

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<sigh> There's no mention of justification by faith alone here. Why? Because such a passage doesn't exist. Justification by faith alone is a manmade construct.



No mention of faith, or justification by our faith alone here either, just parroting the error of the early Reformers, 'our faith alone'.
<sigh> You still refuse to get it. Justification is by grace alone through the work of Christ, but it comes through faith in Christ, not works (Eph. 2:8; Titus 3:5ff again). Therefore it is by grace alone, by Christ alone, through faith alone, according to the Scriptures alone, to the glory of God alone, as the Reformers taught.
We are saved by works, but they are the works of Christ.
 

kyredneck

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No, but every sinner who is justified is saved, and every sinner who is save has been justified.

Whatever, if you're satisfied with that.

FTR, faith is just one element of our justification (and Eph 2:8 clearly states that this faith is not of ourselves). God gets 100% of the glory.

Peruse all these 'justifications' from Romans alone:

13 for not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified: Ro 2
24 being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Ro 3
1 Being therefore justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ;
9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, shall we be saved from the wrath of God through him. Ro 5
33 Who shall lay anything to the charge of God`s elect? It is God that justifieth; Ro 8

Justified by our faith alone? Not!
 
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kyredneck

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<sigh> You still refuse to get it. Justification is by grace alone through the work of Christ, but it comes through faith in Christ, not works (Eph. 2:8; Titus 3:5ff again). Therefore it is by grace alone, by Christ alone, through faith alone, according to the Scriptures alone, to the glory of God alone, as the Reformers taught.
We are saved by works, but they are the works of Christ.

Are you also conflating 'saved' (sozo) with 'justified' (dikaioo) like @David Lamb does? Is this an Anglo thing?
 

Martin Marprelate

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Are you also conflating 'saved' (sozo) with 'justified' (dikaioo) like @David Lamb does? Is this an Anglo thing?
Do you want to deal with my post?
13 for not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified: Ro 2
The whole point of what Paul is saying in Rom. 1-3 is that 'We have previously charged both Jews and Greeks that they are all under sin.
As it is written: "There is none righteous, no, not one......'
If salvation is by works, no one at all is going to be saved.
24 being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Ro 3
1 Being therefore justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ;
9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, shall we be saved from the wrath of God through him. Ro 5
33 Who shall lay anything to the charge of God`s elect? It is God that justifieth; Ro 8
Yep! As I wrote before, Grace Alone, Faith Alone, Christ Alone, to the Glory of God Alone.
If you would like me to explain the 'alone's to you, here you are:
Grace alone, without any input from man.
Faith alone, apart from works.
Christ alone, without help from anyone.
To the glory of God alone. 'That no flesh should glory in His presence' (1 Cor. 1:29).
According to the Scriptures alone. 'As it is written............ That every mouth may be stopped and the whole world may become guilty before God' (Romans 3:10-19).
 
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