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Government Controlling and Banning News Organizations

Foxmeister

Active Member
He is still the President and (more importantly) a human being who deserves to speak his mind without being taken out of context and misrepresented. If I were holding a press conference for whatever reason, I don't think I would want anyone in attendance who would likely twist my words around either! If you are intent on slandering or putting a "spin" on what I am saying in order to make me look like a racist or an idiot, you can do so from secondary sources. I will not enable you by inviting you into "my house!"

No, the White House is not owned by the President but the president is occupying the White House and it is very much HIS domain! I think people ought to respect this and count it a privilege to be sitting in the press room.
Domain is and or a sphere where a person, king, or organization holds authority. The president does not have domain over the White House because it belongs to the federal government and the people of this country.
 

KenH

Well-Known Member
And the interstate system is used by the Post Office. So what is unconstitutional?

Didn't say it was. Limited, constitutional government does not mean no government. I am not an anarchist libertarian. I am a minarchist libertarian.
 

Ben1445

Well-Known Member
Also, the interstate highway system was built to assist in evacuating large cities in case of a nuclear attack.
Okay, so we have established that the government has been authorized to establish roads to facilitate the mail. How much disrepair must there be before you can say that the government is establishing the post roads in the same location they were before. Whatever wrong with some upkeep? And where does that fit into your opinion of government since one President vetoed this kind of activity?
 

KenH

Well-Known Member
Okay, so we have established that the government has been authorized to establish roads to facilitate the mail. How much disrepair must there be before you can say that the government is establishing the post roads in the same location they were before. Whatever wrong with some upkeep? And where does that fit into your opinion of government since one President vetoed this kind of activity?

Seems to me that the national government should upkeep its highways, such as U.S highways and the Interstate Highway System.
 

Ben1445

Well-Known Member
Seems to me that the national government should upkeep its highways, such as U.S highways and the Interstate Highway System.
Then I don’t understand where you are coming from or what you are talking about. I have been going from the understanding I took from what you said here,
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Ben1445

Well-Known Member
Then I don’t understand where you are coming from or what you are talking about. I have been going from the understanding I took from what you said here,
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For some context city delivery didn’t start until 1863, rural in 1896. I’m not positive because I wasn’t there, but the roads they used then were probably the roads already there made by wagon ruts. So the founders, who didn’t envision the mail being delivered by internal combustion engines or electric vehicles, still thought ahead enough to make it possible to pave the roads everywhere.
Is that exactly what they would think? Maybe not, but you can’t really know how they would think about the present circumstances either.
And the federal government doesn’t actually take care of all roads. States and localities have those responsibilities also.
 

KenH

Well-Known Member
Then I don’t understand where you are coming from or what you are talking about.

I am coming from the tiny group of people in the United States who still want a national government that fits within the U.S. Constitution's framework, what I would describe as basically the size of national government that existed prior to the creation of the Federal Reserve and the adoption of the federal income tax in 1913.
 

th1bill

Well-Known Member
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The White House is NOT his house. As the president he's a public figure just as every president has been in the past. I doubt you find in the history of this country where a president has not been criticized or called out by some member of the media. It comes with the territory. Trump shows how thin skin he is with his belly aching about what the media reports. He's the pot calling the kettle black. He thinks nothing of his nasty derogatory remarks about those who disagree with him.
Wrong, I/we are paying him to live there and we will evict him in '29. Until that time it is his legal residence. In the U.S. I can ban anyone from stepping on my property for ahy reason, save Law Officers.
 

Foxmeister

Active Member
Wrong, I/we are paying him to live there and we will evict him in '29. Until that time it is his legal residence. In the U.S. I can ban anyone from stepping on my property for ahy reason, save Law Officers.
You own your house. Trump doesn't own the White House. However, the question is not whether or not who he can invite. The issue is his preventing news media who do not report him favorably. He's restricting the news media by allowing only those who report on him favorably to attend. That's BS and you know it. If a Democrat were in the WH banned conservative news media from attending his press conferences, you would be raising a fit over it. Talk about hypocrisy.
 

KenH

Well-Known Member
You own your house. Trump doesn't own the White House. However, the question is not whether or not who he can invite. The issue is his preventing news media who do not report him favorably. He's restricting the news media by allowing only those who report on him favorably to attend. That's BS and you know it. If a Democrat were in the WH banned conservative news media from attending his press conferences, you would be raising a fit over it. Talk about hypocrisy.

There are really two issues. The president should not ban media from the White House and the grounds around it just because of policy disagreements. Now there are a couple of confined areas where the president can do so - the Oval Office and Air Force One - due to capacity constraints.
 

Foxmeister

Active Member
There are really two issues. The president should not ban media from the White House and the grounds around it just because of policy disagreements. Now there are a couple of confined areas where the president can do so - the Oval Office and Air Force One - due to capacity constraints.
Even with that, there needs to be care taken. However, he made it clear he banned them for being fake news because they didn't report on him favorably.

I'd like to see those news agencies he called fake news and banned file a lawsuit against the administration
 
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