Faith # 7

[Brightfame52]

Why all men dont have Faith ?

We have already pointed out one reason why all men don't have Faith/Believe, yet another reason is because not all men are the Beloved of the Lord, Chosen from the beginning unto Salvation through Sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth 2 Thess 2:13

13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

The word belief here is the same noun faith in 2 Thess 3:2

So all men don't have belief of the truth because they're not Christ sheep and they are not of those "the Beloved of the Lord, Chosen from the beginning unto Salvation through Sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth"

 

[Ben1445]

Why all men don't have Faith ?

2 Thess 3:2

And that we may be delivered from unreasonable and wicked men: for all men have not faith.

Its because all men are not Christs Sheep Jn 10:26

26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.

Because the lost are incapable of having any faith in anything at all??

Riiiiight, they believe in nothing. They are faithful to nothing.

You always push the cart with the horse. It doesn’t have to be that complicated.

 

[Brightfame52]

Because the lost are incapable of having any faith in anything at all??

Riiiiight, they believe in nothing. They are faithful to nothing.

You always push the cart with the horse. It doesn’t have to be that complicated.

Ben1445, you are making a massive category error by confusing natural human faith with supernatural saving faith.

Nobody is claiming that unregenerate men lack the biological capacity to believe in a political party, a chair, or a pagan idol. That is natural human faith, and it requires zero spiritual life. The "faith" Paul is talking about in 2 Thessalonians 3:2 and Jesus is talking about in John 10:26 is specifically saving faith directed toward God.

Let's look at who is actually putting the cart before the horse according to the direct grammar of Scripture:

1. The Causal Sentence Structure of John 10:26

You claim I am flipping the sequence. Let's let Christ's own syntax settle the order:

“But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep...”

Look at the word because (the Greek causal conjunction γάρ - gar). It acts as a strict causal arrow.

• Your Synergistic Order: "You are not my sheep because you do not believe." (Faith determines election).
• Christ's Actual Order: "You do not believe because you are not my sheep." (Election determines faith).

Jesus explicitly states that their lack of faith is the direct consequence of their non-elect status. They don't fail to become sheep because they refuse to believe; they are incapable of believing because they were never chosen as Sheep in the first place.

2. Saving Faith is Not a Native Human Capacity

You say it doesn't have to be complicated. It isn't. The reason "all men have not faith" (2 Thess 3:2) is that saving faith is not a native superpower that sinners can generate from their dead hearts. Scripture explicitly defines saving faith as an infused, sovereign gift:

• Philippians 1:29: “For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him...”
• Acts 18:27: “...helped them much which had believed through grace.”

If faith were a natural capacity available to all men, Paul’s statement that "all men have not faith" would be completely meaningless. He isolates faith as a distinct possession belonging only to a specific group.

Conclusion

I am not putting the cart before the horse; I am keeping the Creator before the creature.
Man cannot drive the cart of faith until God provides the horse of regeneration. You are trying to make a spiritually dead corpse perform a supernatural act of saving faith while remaining a wolf. But Jesus completely crushes your timeline: you must be a Sheep by sovereign election and monergistic quickening before you can ever hear His voice and exercise the gift of faith.

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