Americanity

[th1bill]

That's funny because I wouldn't call him a Libertarian at all. He used to identify as a Democrat. To be honest with you, I don't think he really identifies with any political party because Trump is all about Trump. Don't believe me? Trump loves going to campaign rallies of the candidates he endorses. When he's behind that podium, he spends the vast majority of the time talking about himself and little about the candidate he supports. He suffers from malignant narcissism. Psychologist say this is the most severe, destructive, and dangerous form of narcissism. Malignant narcissism crosses a line into malicious behavior. It bridges the gap between narcissism and psychopathy.

He's a man filled with hate. That's evident by the way he reacts about people who disagree with him. He fired people in his first administration who disagreed with him. He had the highest turnover rate of any previous president. When he appointed Jeffery Sessions to be his first US Attorney General, he called him a great man and the best Attorney General the country ever had. Then when Sessions recused himself from participating in the Russia investigation because he was a witness to it, Trump fired him. Afterward, Trump called him the worst Attorney General the country ever had.

This administration, he made sure to appoint people would be nothing more than yes-men.

Trump insist on having his name on everything. He wants the Kennedy Center to be called the Donald Trump and John F. Kennedy Center. Notice he wants his name first. He's calling the new ballroom being built (which he began illegally) The Trump Ballroom. He claims our allies want him to name the triumphal arch he's having built in DC after himself. BTW, he's also calling that arch a military facility that will be filled with ammunition and bombs. That should tell you that the money to construct it is coming from the Department of War.

That brings me to another point. Our armed forces are to serve as a national defense. I find it hypocritical for a man who calls himself the "president of peace" to rename the Department of Defense to the Department of War.

Trump calls himself the greatest president the country has ever had. Not hardly. He increased our national debt by $7.8 trillion in his first term and half of that was in the first two years. So far this term, he's increased the national debt by $3.8 trillion and it hasn't been two years. This is a man who said in during 2016 campaign that he would pay off the national debt.

Trump tells lie after lie. If you like I can list them for you. Here's a couple: he during his 2024 campaign he would bring an end to the war between Ukraine and Russia before taking office. His supporters believed him. Everyone else recognized the lie. He said by the end of his first year in office he would cut our total energy cost in half. His supporters believed him. Everyone else recognized it as a lie.

His war with Iran is costing us dearly. Look at how it's caused the price of fuel and everything associated with it to increase significantly. Let's not forget either his promise (bribe for votes) how every adult will receive a check of $5,000 only if the Republicans retain the majority in Congress.

Like I said, Trump is all about Trump because he wants to be powerful.

i also, once, was a Democrat but they think they are using the Muslims to usher in Marxism but, instead, the Muslim is using them in their World Conquest.

 

[th1bill]

Your question here is basically comparing apples and oranges. Yes, I still sin. But I am also counted perfect because I am securely in Christ. The Father does not see my sins. He sees the perfection of His beloved Son.

And the same cannot be true of the Presdent?

 

[Foxmeister]

And the same cannot be true of the Presdent?

Have you seen the fruits of the Holy Spirit in Trump?

 

[th1bill]

Have you seen the fruits of the Holy Spirit in Trump?

President, hear that, President Trump and I both ran construction companies and he built with steel and stone while I and my crew built withnd Yellow Pine. He is worth Billions and I get my SS. I go to church in Texas and he goes to meet with his Church Family in NYC or in DC. The Ruach in my heart does not find issue with the rebirth of my brother-in-Christ, the President God directs us to obey and respect.

People calling themselves Christian that seek not to obey, they trouble the Spirit living in my spiritual heart.

 

[JonC]

And the same cannot be true of the Presdent?

No, it cannot anymore than Mitt Romeny could be a Christian while holding a Mormon faith, or Abdul El-Sayed could be a Christian while holding a Muslim faith.

Trump claims to be Christian but he has said that he does not need forgiveness of sins because going to heaven is the reward fpr good deeds. He has repeatedly stated that his hope for salvation is doing more good than bad in this life. That is not Christianity.


This calls into question the legitimacy of the faith of Christians who accept Trump as a believer because it is a rejection of Christ in favor of a works based salvation. It destroys the witness of Christians because it cheapens the Cross.


Heaven is not the reward for doing more good than bad. When we die God does not count the good we have done along with the bad to determine our fate. Salvation is not a business ledger.

The gospel of Jesus Christ is salvation by grace, not what we have earned. We do not deserve to be saved because we have done good works. We do good works because they are a fruit of our salvation.

 

[JonC]

People calling themselves Christian that seek not to obey, they trouble the Spirit living in my spiritual heart.

Here is the question -

Does it trouble your heart that Trump stated several times he needs no forgiveness as he hopes to do more good deeds than bad deeds, the good outweighing the bad with heaven as the reward?

It troubles my heart that "Christians" accept Trump as a brother because it means these people do not know the gospel of Christ.


Trump is wrong. His faith is anti-Christ. We do not earn our salvation by doing more good than bad. We all need forgiveness. We all need to be born of the Spirit.


It is the same with MLK Jr. He rejected the Resurrection (bodily resurrection of Christ). So did Jefferson. To call them "Christian" because we admire their social or political works is to deny Christ.

 

[JonC]

I don’t believe in reincarnation, heaven or hell—but we go someplace,”

"I really think I probably should make it. I mean, I'm not a perfect candidate, but I did a hell of a lot of good for perfect people"

"I don't think there's anything going to get me in heaven. Okay, I really don't. I think I'm not maybe heaven-bound."

"If I can save 7,000 people a week from getting killed, that’s pretty good . . . I want to try and get to heaven, if possible. I’m hearing I’m not doing well. I am really at the bottom of the totem pole. But if I can get to heaven, this will be one of the reasons.”

"So go out and spread the word and once I get in [to the White House], I will do my thing that I do very well. And I figure it’s probably maybe the only way I’m going to get to heaven."

"If you’re religious, you have I think a better feeling toward it. You’re supposed to go to heaven ideally, not hell, but you’re supposed to go to heaven if you’re good.”

 

[Ascetic X]

Democrats, radical Muslims, etc. may be a danger to our nation but they are no danger to our faith.

The GOP, however, is the greater danger as they exchange the gospel of Christ for a political gospel.

No danger to our faith?

Many Democrats want to get rid of all Christian values and replace them with atheism, communism, abortion, transgenderism, gay agenda, and sorcery.

Muslims are burning down churches and genociding or imprisoning Christians in Nigeria, Mali, Sudan, Somalia, Niger, and many other countries. They are taking over France, England, New York City, etc.

Christian faith is being wiped off the face of the earth rapidly. What remains now are charismatic freak shows and woke liberal churches that feature rock concerts and do not preach the gospel or use the Bible.

 

[JonC]

No danger to our faith?

Many Democrats want to get rid of all Christian values and replace them with atheism, communism, abortion, transgenderism, gay agenda, and sorcery.

Muslims are burning down churches and genociding or imprisoning Christians in Nigeria, Mali, Sudan, Somalia, Niger, and many other countries. They are taking over France, England, New York City, etc.

Christian faith is being wiped off the face of the earth rapidly. What remains now are charismatic freak shows and woke liberal churches that feature rock concerts and do not preach the gospel or use the Bible.

Yes. Muslims are no danger to our faith (if our faith is legitimate). They may kill us, but although we die yet shall we live.

The danger are the wolves in sheep's clothing. This includes those who make churches into social clubs and those who oppose churches who use contemporary praise music (those who try to lock the faith into their tradition). This includes the GOP and those who advocate a social gospel.

But pagan cults, like Muslims, like the DNC, are not a danger to our faith. In fact, the Bride thrives in persecution (not in number but in faith).

Your fears that Muslims and Democrats will erase the Church is misplaced. The caution is not wolves but wolves in sheep's clothing that lead Christians away.

The World persecuted Christ. Why do you think the World should embrace us?

 

[th1bill]

No, it cannot anymore than Mitt Romeny could be a Christian while holding a Mormon faith, or Abdul El-Sayed could be a Christian while holding a Muslim faith.

Trump claims to be Christian but he has said that he does not need forgiveness of sins because going to heaven is the reward fpr good deeds. He has repeatedly stated that his hope for salvation is doing more good than bad in this life. That is not Christianity.


This calls into question the legitimacy of the faith of Christians who accept Trump as a believer because it is a rejection of Christ in favor of a works based salvation. Itce he destroys the witness of Christians because it cheapens the Cross.


Heaven is not the reward for doing more good than bad. When we die God does not count the good we have done along with the bad to determine our fate. Salvation is not a business ledger.

The gospel of Jesus Christ is salvation by grace, not what we have earned. We do not deserve to be saved because we have done good works. We do good works because they are a fruit of our salvation.

I have not heard him say these things since his public profession of faith but I do feel Matthew 7 is important in this judgement, I cannot go there.

 

[th1bill]

I don’t believe in reincarnation, heaven or hell—but we go someplace,”

"I really think I probably should make it. I mean, I'm not a perfect candidate, but I did a hell of a lot of good for perfect people"

"I don't think there's anything going to get me in heaven. Okay, I really don't. I think I'm not maybe heaven-bound."

"If I can save 7,000 people a week from getting killed, that’s pretty good . . . I want to try and get to heaven, if possible. I’m hearing I’m not doing well. I am really at the bottom of the totem pole. But if I can get to heaven, this will be one of the reasons.”

"So go out and spread the word and once I get in [to the White House], I will do my thing that I do very well. And I figure it’s probably maybe the only way I’m going to get to heaven."

"If you’re religious, you have I think a better feeling toward it. You’re supposed to go to heaven ideally, not hell, but you’re supposed to go to heaven if you’re good.”

Except for God's grace no one can enter Heaven. That grace is there for all to accept.