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    JESUS SUFFERED THE WRATH OF GOD EQUIVALENT OF OUR ETERNAL HELL.

    he died for those whom the Father intended to get saved by that Cross
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    Snuggling With Satan?

    Jesus became sin bearer, so he indeed received all that we were due to receive from the Father
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    An Alternate View (to the Penal Substitution Theory of Atonement

    The obligations imposed upon us by disobeying the law must be met for us to have available to us now the Grace of God, as we are judged and condemned by that Law, while Justified by that Cross, as sin produces in God reaction of righteous wrath and anger and must be punished, so the Cross meets...
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    An Alternate View (to the Penal Substitution Theory of Atonement

    Do you even deny that God imputed towards us while we were yet ungodly justification and very righteousness of Christ ?
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    An Alternate View (to the Penal Substitution Theory of Atonement

    It CANNOT be just that Jesus suffered a physical death, as in His death something happened that allowed for the Father to justify the ungodly and yet still remain perfect and Holy Himself, and Jesus just having a physical death accomplished none of that
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    An Alternate View (to the Penal Substitution Theory of Atonement

    Those who would deny Psa as being the primary atonement view though are really starting to following their own made up Theology, and they also have their own authors they follow, such as a NT Wright and others?
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    An Alternate View (to the Penal Substitution Theory of Atonement

    The Holy Spirit Himself does all of that in Us, but the Father cannot send Him to us to do all of that unless someone has paid in full and satisfied our sin debt owed to God
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    An Alternate View (to the Penal Substitution Theory of Atonement

    The Psa view of the Atonement is the one held by Jesus peter and John and Paul, and they were inspired in that theology
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    An Alternate View (to the Penal Substitution Theory of Atonement

    Again, did not the entire sacrificial system points towards the Messiah death as being Psa, as did the Suffering Servant of Isaiah 53?
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    JESUS SUFFERED THE WRATH OF GOD EQUIVALENT OF OUR ETERNAL HELL.

    Jesus remained very God, never emptied Himself to no longer being very God, correct?
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    JESUS SUFFERED THE WRATH OF GOD EQUIVALENT OF OUR ETERNAL HELL.

    Jesus never died spiritualty, as he remained always very God, but did experience as a Man all the wrath and judgement form the Father due to all lost sinners that he came to save and reconcile back to the Father
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    JESUS SUFFERED THE WRATH OF GOD EQUIVALENT OF OUR ETERNAL HELL.

    The experience Jesus had was NOT like every crucified person had, as he suffered that physical pain and torment, but far worse was facing and enduring upon that Cross the wrath and judgment earned and due to every lost sinners that he would ever save
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    JESUS SUFFERED THE WRATH OF GOD EQUIVALENT OF OUR ETERNAL HELL.

    We derive our doctrines from the very word of God, as we clearly see them taught and held in there, but others who dislike the concpt of wrath of God as being pagan and foreign are blinding themselves to reading and seeing that in the Bible
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    Traditional Baptist Beliefs

    Would be very interesting to read the full Systematic Theology of Van textbook
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    JESUS SUFFERED THE WRATH OF GOD EQUIVALENT OF OUR ETERNAL HELL.

    Election happens from eternity past
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