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That very same wrath was due to all of us redeemed, and Jesus took the full blunt of them for our sakes

For centuries though was held to be a place where non baptized babies entered forever, and also non baptized "good people" so less then Heaven, not nearly as bad ad Purgatory, much less Hell, sorta like an eternal Heavenly nursery

Except that Rome basis all of that upon a Sacramentalism work effort to merit eventually salvation theology

I am currently wading thru the Cross of Christ by John Stott, an excellent treatise ont atonement of Christ and again, in the various other theories of the Atonement, where and when and how did the wrath and condemnation of God towards lost sinners get propiated and dealt with?

Please read that article, as it shows that your views exactly mirror his own, and denies Pauline Justification as Reformed and Baptist traditionally have seen it as being

I am not saying that, but the Bible is to us, as all will face a Judgement day, and either Jesus paid for all of my sins and God imputed to me His very righteousness, or else I will have to endure and face that stored up towards me wrath and eternal separation from God

Per Rome, they all go to Limbo Per the Bible silent but we can say that God will always do right, and that all elected babies will make it And in my opinion, God chose tp elect unto salvation all babies and very small children, not because their are born innocent, buy due to great Grace, mercy...

To the Lord though would be no difference between Children been baptized or not, as To Him getting wet does not make one enter into the New Covenant

This is why to me you seem my Brother to be parroting NT Wrong here on Justification, and why we Reformed and Baptists disagree with that view Please read and interact back https://upper-register.typepad.com/blog/2009/08/nt-wright-on-the-atonement.html

He cannot forgive sin by just declaring it gone and done away with, as the soul that has sinned must die, must face His divine wrath judgement condemnation, and that since Jesus took upon Himself what we deserved, God could now declare us saved in and by Calvary.

So to them its not really which textual basis being used, but really that the 1611 translators had same inspiration granted them as Prophets and Apostles to create the "perfect" English translation?

Some seem to equate the Kjv English as being like Holy Spirit language, for just as he gave to the Hews the Hebrew OT, and to the Gentiles Koine Greek back in the day, He gave to all since 1611 the kjv

So who pays and receives our due wrath them if saved. as God judges each for their own individual sins? And why is it wrong to have Jesus takes upon himself directly from the father for our sakes our deserved wrath and condemnation, as He Himself was the very lamb of God?

There are none in the new Covenant who were not born again, and to be such, must be of age enough to hear, comprehend, and receive Jesus as their Lord and Savior, and thus babies and small children would not qualify, but I see it that God made provision for those such as babes and very young...

The bible clearly teaches that Jesus was placed upon that Cross by will of God the Father, that they both agreed to that from eternity past, and that Jesus agreed to accept for their sale of his own people the wrath and chastisement any and all lost sinners will in the hands and an angry God at...