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That last line really is something, are you statin g that those of us posting here on this thread are all in the flesh? Do you not know per the bible being in the flesh would mean not saved? We would then be unsaved, unable to discern the scriptures?

Neither would have ever happened, as His cross was decreed and predestined from all eternity

Did Jesus experience seperation from the father while upon that Cross? Did he drink of that cup of wrath of the OT prophets foretold? In the Garden of Gethsemane, Jesus prays, “My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as you will” (Matthew...

Why do you keep denying the word of the Lord regarding this? The wrath of God is a fearsome and terrifying thing. Only those who have been covered by the blood of Christ, shed for us on the cross, can be assured that God’s wrath will never fall on them. “Since we have now been justified by His...

We all should try to read John owens the death of death in the death of Christ

that wrath will either be visted upon the lost sinner, or else upon Jesus in our stead

Evidence would be when JonC keeps repeating god will not judge another for anothers sins, will not bring to blame someone not guilty of the sin, so woudl not be any way to have the sinless lamb of god per him get that wrath of God, yet if the atonement of the Cross was not Pst, then again, where...

I did read it, as the wreath of god must be appeased, must be accounted for towards the lost sinner before there can ne any justification made

White there are many views on the Atonment of Christ upon that Cross, the PST is the MOST biblical view

Where did the wrath of God the ftaher towards those who got saved go though? And are we born spiritually dead or not in Adam?

Do you believe that from eternity, teh father and the Son had planned the Cross, and that the Son would become incarnated as the man Jesus, and agreed to take upon Himself the very wrath we all deserved of a a Holy God ? And that Jesus willingly took upon Himself that required wrath and...

Think that a majority of Baptist pastors teachers would still see the Atonement in the lines of the Pst, regardless if hold to Calvinism or not, as Pst does NOT need to hold to any particular Sotierology to be found in the scriptures as the best view on the Atonement, not the only, but the most...

Every cult and ism in he end must deny the truth of the scriptures and must lean upon their founders false doctrines and theology as the truth

The NT Greek is not your friend AI Overview +3 The Koine Greek word for "propitiation" is ἱλασμός (hilasmos), which means an appeasing or atoning sacrifice. Other related terms include hilasterion (propitiatory) and hilaskomai (to propitiate). This concept appears in the Septuagint and New...

He cannot get the pagan idea of appeasing the wrath of a god out of his mind. Right there is where you deny atonement as defined to us by Jesus and Paul