Recent content by Paleouss

Greetings brother. God blesses in ways even unseen. So I am doing well. I think we are :) Agreed. Sin produces death, the power of sin is death, the sting of death is sin. This is without the law, thus, it is lawlessness. Sin is lawlessness. Agreed. The law only condemns, makes guilty...

Greetings JonC. Hope you are enjoying your day. Many blessing to you. The only law that the Scripture would seem to have presented as being transgressed was the law of "thou shall not eat" (Gen 2:17, 3:1, 3:3). Could one look at the Moral Law (by this I specifically mean the Ten...

Greetings to you JonC. May God bless those that seek Him. I like how you present how you are thinking through it. It also helps with my understanding of your thought process. Before I give any responses, I agree that Paul may at times be referring to different laws. Looking at your timeline...

Just wanted to give thanks for this post. Letting you know that I read it and see more of your clarification in it. I won't respond to it due to your other post that I think my responses that would be in it, would cover what is in this post. Peace to you brother

Greetings again JonC. Hope your week has been a good one. I've been working on some study projects, so I have been purposely away and focusing on the projects. I think I understood your general position. Maybe not the details as much. I think most all would hold this, as it is written. One...

Greetings brother JonC Do you then disagree that the Moral Law given to Moses so that "every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God" (Rom 3:19)? Peace to you brother

@Ben1445 Greetings JonC. Forgive me again for coming into your conversation with another. I have heard, and think I understand most of your complaints about the Penal Substitution Theory (some of them I agree with). In general, we agree that the Penal Sub theory ignores the Cosmic Triumph of...

Regulus, I have not read any other post but the OP in this thread... my deepest prayers for you and your tribulation you are currently having. Divorce is very painful for any and all. It is unclear to me what "broke my vows" entails. But I can relate to that horrible bottom one finds...

Greetings again Van. Peace and hope in Christ our Lord. As usual, I'll take the middle ground. Yes, God's providence is complete. Before the foundation of the world God the Father with God the Son “worked out everything in conformity with the purpose of his will” (Eph 1:11). Knowing all that...

JonC. Thank you for your thoughtful reply and patience. I agree that one can find many instances within Scripture that contrast the Law against mercy and faith. However, faith was supposed to be essential for approaching the law. While the law provided rules and regulations, it was meant to...

Greetings and apologies for my late response. Ok, you do make a distinction between "justice" and "punishment". You also say that, "justice involves more than a penalty for a crime" (in this, we agree). Here we might have some disagreement. On the one had you say something I agree with...

JonC, forgive me for butting into a conversation with another. I would agree that the "wages" of sin is death according to the Bible. Some words that I think can be seen as synonymous are... (a) wages of sin is death (b) payment for sin is death (c) the cost of sin is death (c) natural...

Greetings JonC. I apologize for the late response. Life things interrupted my typical study routine. Just getting to all the posts you have put in this thread. In response to your witness in the above quote. This is why, for me, I am a life long learner of God and His wisdom. I often get...

Greetings JonC I understand that you (1) differentiate the view of Penal Substitution with what the exact words of the Bible state. I also understand that you (2) believe the Atonement is a foundational doctrine. What I don't know is "how" you differentiate between the two, i.e., between P.S...

Greetings to you JonC. I hope your night, because that is when my timestamp says you were on, was a good one. According to the research of Gustaf Aulen (I think late 1800s early 1900s), the theory of Christus Victor (as he defines it) was actually the more representative of the position of the...