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    Satan’s Fall #2: Genesis 1:1 Intends “Everything Made”

    Peace to you Deacon. Looks like I originally missed your post. I might add to your suggested "emphasis of the Genesis creation" story by adding, The emphasis is that God is (a) the creator of all things made and (b) brings order and life from disorder and lifeless (See post #12). It is...
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    Satan’s Fall #2: Genesis 1:1 Intends “Everything Made”

    Greetings to all my brothers in Christ. Genesis 1:31: Understanding the Progression of “Good” to “Very Good” The English “formless and void” is from the Hebrew tohu va-bohu which means disorganized, confusion, chaos, lack of order. (like Isa 34:11 or Jer 4:23, [not "empty wasteland])...
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    Satan’s Fall #2: Genesis 1:1 Intends “Everything Made”

    Greetings. My apologies for the quick reply. I don't have much time. This is a distinction that makes no difference. Your quote, above, is dripping with presuppositions. If you can see it, you assume the devil had already fallen when God said everything He had made was very good". Then you...
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    Satan’s Fall #2: Genesis 1:1 Intends “Everything Made”

    Greetings. My apologies for a quick reply. Don't have much time. I agree...with most of what you wrote. It seems like it might assume a position of when. But on the face of it, I Agee. I agree. And holding that we can trust what Genesis 3 tells us, that three characters fell in-concert at...
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    Satan’s Fall #2: Genesis 1:1 Intends “Everything Made”

    Greetings to you kyredneck. You quoted me saying, "The Word “shamayim” in Genesis 1:1 is plural". Then you asked, "So is this the word Elohim"? It appeared you were wondering if "shamayim", which is the Hebrew plural for "heavens", was the same thing as the Hebrew word "Elohim" which is...
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    Satan’s Fall #2: Genesis 1:1 Intends “Everything Made”

    Genesis 1:1: Historical Interpretations and Only Physical View Leading To Rigid Dualism The term “merism” to represent Hebrew word-pairs that represent totality was made popular in 1952 by A.M. Honeyman. However, ancient interpreters already recognized the concept of totality in Genesis 1:1...
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    Satan’s Fall #2: Genesis 1:1 Intends “Everything Made”

    Greetings to all my brothers in Christ. May we all find our peace and rest in Jesus Christ the Son of God. (Gen 1:31 NKJV) 31 Then God saw everything that He had made, and indeed [it was] very good. So the evening and the morning were the sixth day. It was my...
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    When was Satan's Fall From Grace?

    Greetings Ben. Blessings and best wishes to you and yours. We wrote... Regarding creation, it would seem that (a) the third heaven, the spiritual realm in which angels have their abode, is eternal with God... is false. But thinking (b) the third heaven, the spiritual realm, is a creation of...
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    When was Satan's Fall From Grace?

    I'm assuming you are going off KJV? It says "heaven", singular. But the NKJV says "heavens", plural. The noun shamayim (שָׁמַיִם), appears plural grammatically, at first blush. Regardless of that dispute...it seems I remember that when the OT wants to mean "everything that exists" it pares...
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    When was Satan's Fall From Grace?

    Greetings again SMA. Hope and peace to you in our Lord Jesus Christ. That is unfortunate, imo. I'm not sure to what degree we will ever come together then, if the Word of God is not the foundation of your theology concerning spiritual matters. But let me present my position in regards to...
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    When was Satan's Fall From Grace?

    Greetings JonC Sticking with the same outline as post #97 (the one you responded to). It seems to me that the relevant verses are Revelation 12:8-11. A. Rev 12:8... "nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer" The next two verses Revelation 9-10 appear to elaborate on Rev...
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    When was Satan's Fall From Grace?

    Greeting SMA. Good conversation. I hope your week is a blessed one. First, you may be arguing against something that wasn't in my last post. I'm not sure. You seem to be arguing primarily against the concept of "no importance". Simply by recall, you might be referring back to my post #55...
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    When was Satan's Fall From Grace?

    Greetings to all. Peace and hope to all this day. I noticed on my scrolling to find kyredneck's position, this topic of "Did Satan and the 1/3 of the angels event happen after the fall of Adam?" The direct verses in qustion would seem to be Revelation 12:4, Revelation 12:7, and Genesis...
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    When was Satan's Fall From Grace?

    Could you lay this reasoning and verses out for me (or direct me to the post you did)? We might be similar here. Peace
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