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    TULIP - Which of the 5 points to subscribe to?

    People run and get 2 Pet 2:1 to show that Christ redeemed lost people with His Blood, but the scripture doesnt say that. So explain why you use that scripture to believe a lie.
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    A Perfect Righteousness

    We have the pot calling the kettle black lol
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    Faith # 3

    Jn 17:19-20 He Prays for Faith ! 2 A quick recap, the Lord Jesus Christ in Jn 17:19-20 in His Petition statement that by His sanctifying Himself [by death] that they whom He is dying for may as a result be Sanctified through the Truth See Vs 17 too ! In this statement Jesus is petitioning their...
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    John 1:12-13 revisited.

    Right all the Spiritual seed of Abraham/Christ will be born from above Jn 3:3 3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again,ἄνωθεν[from above] he cannot see the kingdom of God.
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    TULIP - Which of the 5 points to subscribe to?

    You have yet to prove that 2 Pet 2:1 is about someone redeemed by the blood of Christ. Everyone redeemed by the blood it saved them. Rev 5:9-10 9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God...
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    A Perfect Righteousness

    I did what you did, and with better translations.
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    John 1:12-13 revisited.

    Isaac was born after the Spirit as is the New Covenant Believer Gal 4 28-29 28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise. 29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
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    A Perfect Righteousness

    I responded, you used a bunch of translations, I used the KJV and Greek text
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    John 1:12-13 revisited.

    @Dave G Agreed, and as long as we are in the flesh, unregenerate, we cannot but mind the things of the flesh Rom 8:5 5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. This applies to even our most sincere...
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    His People He foreknew !

    Divine Foreknowledge Acts 2:23 If you would understand the meaning of the word "foreknowledge" as it relates to God, you must consult the Bible, not a dictionary. The meaning of the word is determined by the Holy Spirit's usage of it. Here are four things the Bible teaches about God's...
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    A Perfect Righteousness

    I did respond see post 51
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    1 John 5:1 revisited.

    The passage does teach spiritual birth prior to believing in Christ in a conversion experience, believing in Him and love to other born again believers are evidences of having been born of God.
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    A Perfect Righteousness

    @Van Those who were called in time had previously to being called # were Set apart or Loved/Sanctified by God the Father in choosing them in Christ before the foundation for the world Eph 1:4, they were preserved in Jesus Christ even from their mothers womb, and eventually called by the Gospel...
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    A Perfect Righteousness

    @Van Not according to the kjv and greek text, Ἰούδας Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ δοῦλος ἀδελφὸς δὲ Ἰακώβου τοῖς ἐν θεῷ πατρὶ ἠγίασμένοις, καὶ Ἰησοῦ Χριστῷ τετηρημένοις κλητοῖς· Notice the order in the greek text ?
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    Faith # 3

    Jn 17:19-20 He[Jesus] Prays for Faith ! Jn 17:19-20 19 And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth. 20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; Even though many do not realize it here, but...
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    His People He foreknew !

    About Foreknowledge: Ephesians 1:4 says, "According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world". Men often go to great lengths and contrive explanations as to why the doctrine of unconditional election cannot be true. They will twist and turn its meaning into a form which is...
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    Faith # 3

    Eph 2:8 Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Religionists, no matter what, believe that Salvation is of themselves. However, that Faith is not of man that believeth, but by the Grace and Power of God, can not be more plainer than...
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    His People He foreknew !

    (2) Another word is foreknowledge.19 This word does not refer to a mere foreknowledge whereby God has prior knowledge of all things, including the end of men. “Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world” (Act 15:18). It rather refers to a foreknowledge characterized by love...
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    John 1:12-13 revisited.

    @Dave... Yes it does, also it teaches one has to be given the right and ability to believe. Its only given [to believe] to the seed of Abraham, the Spiritual seed, for Christ came only to lay hold on and rescue them, hence He took on Him the seed of Abraham Heb 2:16 16 For verily he took not...
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    Faith # 3

    Faith in God and Christ is a matter of Mercy ! Rom 11:32 32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all. Faith in God and Christ is a matter of Mercy , in other words, in order to become a believer in Christ for Salvation, we must obtain Mercy, or God must...
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