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Actually, the NASV was published in 1971, and he went to Heaven in 1980. I'm sure he knew about it, but by 1971 he was quite settled in his ways, and did not use it or write anything about it to the best of my knowledge.

I'll give it a look.

I pretty much agree, but I teach tithing as a wonderful practice. I just don't see it as a distinctive of Baptists, since Christianity across the board (including me) teaches tithing.

I'd be interested concerning what historical link you have found between the Anabaptists and those who went by the name Baptist in England (beginning in the early 1600s), the American colonies, etc. Reading Theologians of the Baptist Tradition, ed. by Timothy George and David Dockery (2001)...

Calvary Baptist supported us while we were in Japan. Great church!

I like your post. However, IMO as a fundamentalist, Jerry Sr. left the fold when he decided to bail out Jim Bakker and his "ministry." We fundamentalists have as a distinctive ecclesiastical separation. Bakker was in every way someone who Falwell should have separated from: immoral with bad...

Thanks for the good post. He occasionally got in trouble with other fundamentalists due to his friendship with W. A. Criswell and other non-IFB men. I met Paige Patterson of the SBC several years ago, and he told me that as he travelled the US he saw books by Rice in the libraries of many SBC...

My opinion is if we make only that one a "distinctive" then a ton of churches would be out there which do not call themselves Baptist and don't want to. So the term "distinctive" points to something unique to Baptists. So I feel a good, well thought out list is very important. There are three...

Maybe "Alliance of Former Baptists"? :Biggrin

This is a pretty good list. You're definitely a Baptist! A note: any such list is descriptive, not prescriptive. I see your point here. The only problem I see is, foot washing does not portray the Gospel like the two usually accepted ordinances do. But I could go to a church that practices...

Interestingly enough, you posted two lists from Trail of Blood. One is from the intro, and the other is from the author, J. M. Carroll. My copy doesn't have the first list with the same wording as the one you gave, but I'll answer your lists. I object to some of the points which are or should...

I would disagree here. If a Baptist church accepts sprinkling, to me they are not broadening the meaning of Baptist, they are diluting it and moving away from being a Baptist. IMO, at that point they ought to remove the name Baptist from their sign, and call themselves a Bible church, community...

Another list out there uses the word BAPTIST for a 7 point list of the distinctives. So then, a saved Greek Orthodox guy could be a Baptist? Or a Church of Christ guy who didn't believe their baptismal regeneration? Or a Paulician from many hundreds of years ago?? (Just askin'! ;))

Salty, don't you have some connection to Maranatha? Remember the BRAPSIS list of Dr. Richard Weeks?

Yes, I have those two books, and you are correct about the Jack Hyles they portray.

Do you agree with all of these? That's what I'm asking with this thread, not what others say, but what you believe they should be.

Rice would have completely disagreed with the post-Rice Jack Hyles in many ways. I have a whole chapter on the relationship between the two--and my own experiences with Hyles later on--in my book on Rice. Right at the end of Rice's life a rupture between the two men started to appear, but Rice...

This I wouldn't know unless we took an actual poll. :)

Here is what Hyles turned out to be after Rice died (from my book, 271-272): Hyles became increasingly more radical on this issue. “Within a few years of Rice’s death, Jack Hyles [had begun] repeating Ruckman’s arguments.”26 A Fundamental Baptist Fellowship (FBF) resolution said in 1995, “Hyles...

I have had several fundamentalist leaders tell me they thought Rice held Hyles in check, and that when Rice died, Hyles went off the deep end. Here is an excerpt from my book about Rice and Ruckman, pp. 69-70. (See the link at the bottom of my posts.) In 1973, a “King James Only” advocate...