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    Reasons Why Professed Christians Fail To See or Grasp The Doctrines Of Grace

    What do they say, that causes decay? Do you have any link, or article about this decay? if you do, share it. What about Founders ministry, are they causing decay?
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    Reasons Why Professed Christians Fail To See or Grasp The Doctrines Of Grace

    Silver hair, let's take a look back to your posts: Oh I forgot I do not have my Calvi dictionary on hand. See there is just another of your many failures ZA. You keep reading your religion into the bible rather than get your theology from the bible. You are under the delusion that calvinism is...
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    Reasons Why Professed Christians Fail To See or Grasp The Doctrines Of Grace

    I am not sure what you mean! Could you clarify what you mean by issues they are gravitating to? Is something serious going on, where we should not trust these teachers?
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    Reasons Why Professed Christians Fail To See or Grasp The Doctrines Of Grace

    Yes. I think you are saying this correctly,100% I see. This makes much sense! I am sure you are onto something! Wow, Good insight! This makes so much sense, and is so clear. Surely this is bible based truth! Some of the other posters want to drift all over the place and never seem to land on...
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    Reasons Why Professed Christians Fail To See or Grasp The Doctrines Of Grace

    When reading some of these men, they suggest that calvinism is the truth found in scripture. They quote Jesus, and the Apostles. That is what they teach is that which was taught by Jesus. This would be the gospel, correct? I would not question if the Apostles were Christians, except if you mean...
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    Reasons Why Professed Christians Fail To See or Grasp The Doctrines Of Grace

    Maybe there was a reason they were what you call Calvinists? It looks like what they saw in scripture equals what you are calling calvinism. You have not really answered that at all. Islam seems to believe things are determined without a personal God who is indeed in control. Is that your view, SH?
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    Christ SHALL Save His People From Their Sins

    Is that what they said? Or did they answer the question, what does the bible teach? Where do you get this idea from? Do you have them saying they had a biased view? Or are you seeking to avoid the confessional truths? What if those who oppose the view were the unbelievers the scripture speaks...
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    Reasons Why Professed Christians Fail To See or Grasp The Doctrines Of Grace

    These men got it right. they did not offer up any of the 15 reasons why men do not come to this truth. They all agree with the confessions of faith. Did you notice that? I do not see any of them quoting pagan philosophy
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    Christ SHALL Save His People From Their Sins

    looks like those who wrote the confessions of faith did find them in the bible
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    Christ SHALL Save His People From Their Sins

    Everyone who denies the doctrines of grace is found contained in the 15 reasons they do not come to truth.
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    Reasons Why Professed Christians Fail To See or Grasp The Doctrines Of Grace

    Who believes such a thing? Do you have quotes from anybody who is a Christian saying this? I think the confessional view is what actual Christians hold to. I see that as there are a division of believers, then unbelievers. that would be us vs. them Can you really know without the Spirit of...
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    Reasons Why Professed Christians Fail To See or Grasp The Doctrines Of Grace

    I am with you Gillinist! Many who say the majority of Christians do not believe the doctrines of grace, perhaps are believing that Thomas jefferson and others like him are "christians". Strange indeed!
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    Reasons Why Professed Christians Fail To See or Grasp The Doctrines Of Grace

    Here you go Ben; https://www.monticello.org/research-education/thomas-jefferson-encyclopedia/jeffersons-religious-beliefs/#:~:text=Jefferson%20was%20deeply https://thechristianthinker.com/was-thomas-jefferson-a-christian/...
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    Reasons Why Professed Christians Fail To See or Grasp The Doctrines Of Grace

    I see what you mean! Someone mentioned Jefferson as a source, he was an unbeliever, who denied the trinity, resurrection, miracles, etc. Not a good source! from google search; Jefferson and Christianity While Jefferson was a firm theist, the God in which he believed was not the traditional...
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    Reasons Why Professed Christians Fail To See or Grasp The Doctrines Of Grace

    How has God provided for people to KNow Jesus ,when they never heard about Jesus? God waits to respond to us? he cannot do anything ? He just watches ? Never heard of this idea? people do not choose willingly?
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    Reasons Why Professed Christians Fail To See or Grasp The Doctrines Of Grace

    Correct the Holy Spirit? What are you talking about?
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    Reasons Why Professed Christians Fail To See or Grasp The Doctrines Of Grace

    He just quoted a text saying Lydia whose heart the Lord opened! Do you think we open our own heart then? God can only hope someone will believe? he actually has nothing to do with it? Chosen for what Ben?
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    Reasons Why Professed Christians Fail To See or Grasp The Doctrines Of Grace

    What is the liberal view? Liberal about what? What do you mean by this term determinism? you keep using it. What do you think it means? What has harmed the "body of Christ? You know what the bible says? other men do not know? We should not listen to teachers? Your ideas seem confusing! It...
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    Reasons Why Professed Christians Fail To See or Grasp The Doctrines Of Grace

    Was Thomas Jefferson a bible teacher? A theologian? He knew calvin was unsaved? Did he know his heart? he does not mention Jesus, are you sure he was a believer? This does not sound like a Christian to me: Jefferson’s views on prayer are even more ambiguous. He dismissed Biblical miracles as...
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    Reasons Why Professed Christians Fail To See or Grasp The Doctrines Of Grace

    The question would be, is a christian someone who denies scripture, or believes it? Many people in utah believe the mormon church is Christian. Do you think they are Christians?
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