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A view consistent with Paul’s narrative on Jewish evangelism, “the man who wills or the man who runs” would reflect the false assurance of salvation through works and bloodlines, that is, the perception of the unbelieving Jews who thought they were essentially born saved as children of Abraham...

What you may be forgetting is that they are not pastors they are wolves in sheep's clothing. They are only there to fleece the flock not lead or teach the flock. But you also have to question those that would continue to believe what they are saying.

Spiritually dead = lost, it does not mean that cannot respond to the various means that God uses to draw people to Him. They hear the gospel and believe the gospel.

I have no problem agreeing with that statement of faith as it is biblical. Although I would not call myself an Arminian as I trusted in Christ over 60 years ago. I just believe the word of God as written. I do not like labels as they only serve to divide people.

If they adopted TULIP/DoG

So then what do you think it means in Eph 1:13 and Rom 10:9-10. Is that confessing [prayer] Christ or what? Are there a special set of words that someone must say for it to be considered a confession of faith prayer? Although this verse is not found in the best manuscripts lets look at what...

David what do you think calling out to God is if not a prayer? In Rom 10:9-10 what do you think confessing faith in Christ is if not a prayer? Explain Eph 1:13 not being a prayer? If it does not have the exact words it does not mean that the text indicates,is that what you are saying David...

Actually the idea of a sinners pray goes back just a bit more than that. Paul suggested that here Rom 10:9 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; Rom 10:10 for with the heart a person believes...

They gave you a safety mat!

Not sure if he has the people skills required.

You just will not accept what the word of God says will you KY. As is the norm for those of the C/R view you have pulled an out of context verse in the attempt to support you non-biblical view. Since it requires a free will to be able make choices and you deny free will then it would...

And you KY keep showing that you do not read the posts. Only God saves but He only saves those that have freely trusted in Him. Eph 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; Eph 2:9 not as a result of works, so that no one may...

Well at least I have the ability to reason which it seems you gladly say you do not. It always surprises me how hard those of the C/R view will work to prove that they are just unthinking robots.

@kyredneck I was saved B4 time B4 I even believed. The C/R view has taught a false means of salvation from the start. The bible is clear but it seems you just will not accept what the bible says as it disagrees with your false understanding of the word of God.. Only God saves but He only...

The foolishness is the idea that the US and Britain are to be found in the bible for starters. Armstrong had many foolish ideas that people, who did not know their bible, fell for. But I see you have not provided any clear scripture to support your odd ideas.

You are correct. God saves those that have freely trusted in His risen son. The error of the wisdom of the men who promote false views has been pointed out many times on this and other boards but some still call faith a work.

Sad but true, for many it is just something they do one Sunday each month.

It is not the number of believers that gather but the heart of the believers that gather. Mat 18:20 "For where two or three have gathered together in My name, I am there in their midst." A christian may be lonely but they are never alone.

All you have to do is keep reading David. Eph 2:5 even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), Eph 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, I cannot remember how many...

What church do you attend that teaches that foolishness. That idea came right out of the fertile mind of Armstrong.