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Now, Calvinism claims Hebrews 11:39-40 do not mean what they say, but rather the OT saints did not have to wait, but received the promised perfection before Christ died. I kid you not, the time travel theology folks use it to nullify verse after verse.

Repeating nonsense does not move the ball. Folks, just read Hebrews 11:39-40. The promise not received was to be made perfect. The OT saints had to wait in Abraham's bosom until Christ's sacrifice on the cross.

The House of Wax in 3D. I stayed away from windows after dark, because I feared Vincent Price was lurking just on the other side! I would have been about 10 years old.

Repeating nonsense does not move the ball. Folks, just read Hebrews 11:39-40. The promise not received was to be made perfect. The OT saints had to wait in Abraham's bosom until Christ's sacrifice on the cross.

Hebrews 10:14 NASB For by one offering he has perfected for all time those who are made holy. This verse is frequently poorly translated, as in the case above by the NASB. What is the "one offering?" The sacrifice of Christ's life on the cross. What does it mean to...

A Boeing wide body known as a triple seven? Half ownership in a mini-mart chain ( 7 - 11)

Who are those who have been made perfect? Those who God has set apart in Christ. Hebrews 10:14. The "time travel theology" folks deny the OT saints had to wait in Abraham's bosom until after Christ's sacrifice to be made perfect. Their doctrine is based on unstudied nonsense, not on...

Good Grief, the promise not received was to be made perfect!!

Fiction, no one is saved unless they have been made perfect by the blood of Christ.

Sorry if you think I was disparaging you or your thread. I was attempting to support it.

Now this poster addresses me, and runs from Hebrews 11:39-40. Go figure. Then the false claim, I say God is time bound. Such is the stock and trade of those who misrepresent God and biblical truth. I say the sequence given by God in our inspired scripture is valid and cannot be nullified by...

Non Germane verses posted as if nobody can read. The fiction is God imputes perfect righteousness. No, believers are made perfect when transferred in Christ by the blood of the Lamb.

Hebrews 11:39-40 And all these, having gained approval through their faith, did not receive what was promised, because God had provided something better for us, so that apart from us they would not be made perfect.

Good Grief, do these verses say God's sequence, given in the inspired text are null and void? Of course God declares what He will subsequently cause to happen! Everyone knows that. Does that involve time travel? Nope, of course not. These false teachers support false doctrine with false...

Romans 9:16 says lost men will desire salvation and do works for salvation. Thus, some lost people are aware they need to have their sins forgiven. Does the saved person become perfect by imputation? Nope. Born anew believers are perfected (made perfect) after they are set apart in Christ...

When are people made "perfect" or are perfected? When they are transferred spiritually into Christ. Same as "given to Christ." Sam as "called into" Christ. Same as "baptized into Christ." Same as "believing into Christ." Only after being made perfect are believers enrolled in the General...

Time travel theology is simply a nullification of scripture ploy. Scripture tells us the sequence of events, and the time travel folks, say scripture does not mean what it says, since "everything is present tense" with God. Note how at the end of Hebrews, the OT saints have to wait in...

Nearly 50 minuets to identify 3 changes! The order of sequence of books is changed. In the NA29/USB6 the NT sequence of books will be: 1) Gospels, Matthew Mark Luke and John 2) Acts of the Apostles 3) General Epistles, James, 1 & 2 Peter, 1, 2, &3 John, Jude 4) Pauline Epistles including...

But I am the smartest person in the room. I am right and those holding differing views are wrong. So it is ok to use compulsion to compel others to accept my views, or hit the road. I am unbowed! Not exactly the image of Christ's humility! JOY considers others more important than ourselves...

It looks like "Liberal" means ignoring scripture. Did God create humans, male and female, or did God create humans, male, female and all those in between? If one accepts the nonsense being peddled, Christian's oppose equal rights for all of God's children. One cannot escape the conclusion...