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    Universal Atonement With Limited Atonement

    You need to explain "sprinkled both the book itself and all the people," rather than just remove it from your bible.
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    Are We Born-Again Before Or After Faith?

    1) We agree, first we have our faith, and then God credits our faith as righteousness. 2) To address me and not the topic is a dodge, stick to the topic. 3) No one suggested repentance and faith are not essential, so again off topic. For God to credit our faith, it would be a faith like...
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    1 Timothy 2 - All Men

    This should be an excellent thread, the Opening Post asked an excellent question, how do we, bible students discern the scope or extent of a word like "all." Obviously it should refer to the contextual scope, and not be minimized or expanded to a larger scope than intended. Agenda driven...
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    Universal Atonement With Limited Atonement

    Hebrews 9:19 Old 1 Peter 1:2 New
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    Are We Born-Again Before Or After Faith?

    I) God credited their faith as righteousness to them, having nothing to do with making them righteous. That is only achieved through the blood of the Lamb. 2) A better translation of John 6:40, everyone who becomes aware of Christ and His gospel, and believes "into" Him, will have eternal...
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    Are We Born-Again Before Or After Faith?

    Sorry but I see nothing to rebut. You seem not to comprehend that John the Baptist was the greatest of any human born of women, so any human greater than him must be born anew of something else, i.e. spiritually. If you can't see that, their is nothing more I can say....
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    Are We Born-Again Before Or After Faith?

    To be "part of the church" a person must be spiritually born anew, rather than a person whose faith has not been credited as righteousness. If I understand your statement, you believe God chose foreseen individual with or without foreseen faith and predestined them to be put into Christ. But...
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    USA National Debt Clock

    Just a little background. National Debt in Trillions: End of 2008 10.6 Trillion 2012 16.0 Trillion 2016 19.5 Trillion 2020 26.9 Trillion 2024 35.4 Trillion Mr. Obama went up about 5.5 Trillion in first 4 years, about 3.5 trillion in second 4 years. Mr. Trump...
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    Salvation After Death

    How long does the opportunity for salvation exist? As long as: 1) The person is physically alive 2) The person is cognitively alive, not before the age of accountability, nor if their mind is unable to function 3) The person is able to hear and understand the gospel, their heart has not...
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    Do You Know the Baptist Distinctives?

    Yet another off topic drivel post. These people are purposely derailing an important topic due to an apparent Derangement Syndrome. When I copied and pasted the first sentence of either Baptist Distinctive cited, the High Point source was listed in the first 4 or 5 listings. Way easier than...
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    Universal Atonement With Limited Atonement

    The Old and the New: The sacrifice, provided the blood, provides the means of temporary reconciliation. When the Jews were sprinkled with the blood, they received the temporary reconciliation. Thus the Old pictures or illustrates or foreshadows the New. The sacrifice, provided by the blood of...
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    Universal Atonement With Limited Atonement

    Yet another my way or the highway poster unable to grasp the obvious. The concept that Christ's death provides the means of reconciliation for the whole of humanity, 1 John 2:2, does not suggest everyone has received the reconciliation.
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    Are We Born-Again Before Or After Faith?

    The assertion scripture lacks sufficient information to rightly discern the concept of being born anew is false. Matthew 11:11 NASB (See also Luke 7:28) “Truly I say to you, among those born of women there has not arisen anyone greater than John the Baptist! Yet the one who is least in the...
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    Are We Born-Again Before Or After Faith?

    Ok, God chose us in Him before the foundation of the world." No isms allowed. 1) Who are the "us?" Born anew believers alive at the time Paul wrote Ephesians 1:4. 2) What does "in Him" mean? a) Does it mean God chose us individually and put us into Christ spiritually before we were...
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    Are We Born-Again Before Or After Faith?

    Yes, but as long as they cling to what they think is true, when in reality it is not true, then they can no longer grow in that area. For example, my understanding and interpretation of Ephesians 1:4 differs from what the "saved before faith" folks believe. If my understanding is closer to...
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    Are We Born-Again Before Or After Faith?

    Are We Born-Again Before Or After Faith? A segment of believers accept the dark ages relic that the lost are unable to seek God or put their faith in Christ. Therefore they falsely assert the lost are given the ability to believe, enabled spiritually, because they were chosen before they were...
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    Do You Know the Baptist Distinctives?

    Wild Goose Chase. When I copied and pasted the first sentence of either Baptist Distinctive cited, the High Point source was listed in the first 4 or 5 listings. Way easier than going to a library, obtaining a book, then searching for the citation in 1950's form. OTOH, Baptists believe we are...
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    Do You Know the Baptist Distinctives?

    It is fine to be concerned, start your own thread and discuss the need to provide sources and links for all our citations. On the other hand, this thread's topic has to do with growing in our understanding of Baptist Distinctives. Do we embrace legalism, or do we embrace the Law of Liberty?
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    Do You Know the Baptist Distinctives?

    Ask the poster of post #84 how he did it. You do see how you have posted two posts off topic, duped by the ploy bait.
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    Universal Atonement With Limited Atonement

    How are we saved? God chooses an individual for salvation by spiritually setting that person apart in Christ, the sanctification by the Spirit, based on crediting the person's faith as righteousness. In Christ they undergo the washing of regeneration, they are made alive together with Christ...
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