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You have missed the point. Jesus states who hears the word of God Jn 8:47 the word He covers all ethnicities lol

In doing so, He is stating a Truth, a fact as who hears the word of God. The saved. Did you read the commentary I provided ?

Thats false, like saying we all are goats until trusting in Christ, then we become sheep. Thats as false as saying there's a Santa claus

The bible to you doesnt say a lot of things.

How can one hear the word of God if they not of God ? Jesus says this as to who hears Jn 8:47 47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

He wasnt the only lost person He came to save.

You just confirmed what I stated.

I dont, i can care less about your reason

If one cant believe by his self without divine intervention, how can they hear in order to believe ? That would be a contradiction

Frankley I dont understand what you saying, nor do I believe you understand what you saying friend.

You just agreed that if man by nature isnt drawn by the Father he cant come to Christ and believe. You still believe that or not ?

The elect. Not the vessels of wrath

No he cant, and he will be Judged for all his sins against God if he isnt elect.

By nature man is in a hopeless situation friend.

Thats right, jew and gentile are of the vessels of wrath and the vessels of mercy. The point is, you cant transfer from one group to the other, we had that destiny predetermined by God which group we are in. Well the elect from a spiritual and practical perspective are born lost, that's why...

It includes jews and gentiles as vessels of wrath, just like it includes jews and gentiles as vessels of mercy who are called Rom 9:22-24 20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? 21 Hath not the...

The vessels of wrath being fitted for destruction will always be objects of Gods wrath, they are presently under His wrath and shall never see life, eternal life Jn 3:36 36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of...

It doesnt say it to you. Also man naturally cannot believe in Jesus Christ Jn 6:44, he may believe in a false christ, like the one who supposedly died for all mankind.

What we as natural men dont comprehend is that by nature we are dead to God, in such a condition we are without any hope in and of ourselves, like these gentiles Eph 2:12 12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants...

I don't