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  1. atpollard

    What Doctrine could keep us from Heaven?

    You were clear. I find that BELIEVING it is a lot easier than DOING it ... I suppose one COULD try and live a sinless life as their ticket into heaven (perhaps God would waive the Adamic curse if it applies like that). I just know that I had ZERO chance of success at that route. [It does say...
  2. atpollard

    What Doctrine could keep us from Heaven?

    To this point, I have invested most of my energy in clarifying YOUR beliefs (being certain that what I heard is what you said). I think it only fair that I offer my beliefs on works and soteriology for critical (in the positive sense of that word) examination by you and others. It is a clever...
  3. atpollard

    What Doctrine could keep us from Heaven?

    Thank you for the exchange … vigorous without being “unchristian” (for either of us). Knowing what we DO NOT believe, helps us clarify what it is that we DO believe. :)
  4. atpollard

    What Doctrine could keep us from Heaven?

    So, for the record, you view all who embrace the concept of “Sacraments” as damned because of a salvation by works, right? All Catholics are damned. All Lutherans are damned. All Anglicans are damned. However much faith they place in Christ, irrespective of God’s grace … they are disqualified...
  5. atpollard

    What Doctrine could keep us from Heaven?

    I must respectfully disagree. The question is what would keep us from heaven, and I find it incredulous that one could confess their sins and place the trust in their eternal salvation in Jesus Christ and the Cross, yet be turned away at the gates of heaven and cast into eternal damnation...
  6. atpollard

    What Doctrine could keep us from Heaven?

    Absolutely. One can embrace “modalism” and be SAVED but WRONG, yet if one embraces “Jesus was a great man, but not God“ (like Islam, for example), one is both WRONG and WITHOUT A SAVIOR. Romans 10:9-10 [CSB] If you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God...
  7. atpollard

    What Doctrine could keep us from Heaven?

    I would say doctrines that deny the PERSON of Jesus Christ. (That which places faith in a man-made version of Christ that substitutes a “Jesus shaped idol” for the real thing).
  8. atpollard

    "The Meaning of Foreknew in Romans 8:29"

    YOU brought up the “foundation of the world”. I did not. I merely pointed out that: 1. “God’s foreknew those” was RELATIONAL and not mere Omniscience ‘fact based’. 2. God knew us before we were born (implied in “predestined” those he “foreknew” and “called” and “justified” … when were you and...
  9. atpollard

    "The Meaning of Foreknew in Romans 8:29"

    Respectfully, I view that s too human-centric in its focus. An IDOL exists to serve mankind (that is its purpose). The great I AM exists and all things serve His purpose. Thus God’s purpose, (imho) is better expressed by: Romans 9:15-16 [ESV] For he says to Moses, "I will have mercy on whom...
  10. atpollard

    "The Meaning of Foreknew in Romans 8:29"

    Romans 8:29 [ESV] For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. It is not a “something” that God foreknew, it is a “someone” (“those”). God had a relationship (knowing someone) before they...
  11. atpollard

    Matthew 28:19

    In KJV English (like Shakespeare spoke), Ghost and Spirit meant EXACTLY the same thing. The words drifted apart in “connotation” (flavor) over the centuries since then.
  12. atpollard

    Matthew 28:19

    Examining the Evidence: The Case for and Against the Authenticity of Matthew 28:19 Above is a scholarly discussion of all the facts for those interested. However, just for the sake of argument, let us grant the non-trinitarians the ASSUMPTION that Matthew 28:19 is a later addition (contrary to...
  13. atpollard

    I thought Baptists followed scripture

    1. Jesus celebrated Passover early (so much for the exact day being critical). 2. The APOSTLE PAUL made it 100% clear that “it is not about days” (So you reject the Biblical teaching). 3. If it IS all about the resurrection … that was on a Sunday (first day of the week) … not a variable...
  14. atpollard

    I thought Baptists followed scripture

    What do you call the Fifth day of the week?
  15. atpollard

    I thought Baptists followed scripture

    When was Christmas celebrated in the 3rd century?
  16. atpollard

    I thought Baptists followed scripture

    I am amused by the irony that someone can like the Baptist concept of “Individual Soul Liberty” (the right to your personal beliefs and the responsibility to answer to God rather than man) … because they hold out hope that their unorthodox beliefs will be accepted … only to attack those people...
  17. atpollard

    I thought Baptists followed scripture

    It has a very simple explanation: 1. Mur believes that the Bible teaches UNIVERSALISM (everyone without exception will go to heaven). 2. The BAPTISTS that Mur encountered here rejected UNIVERSALISM (and presented verses that contradict it). 3. Therefore, Mur concludes that Baptists reject...
  18. atpollard

    Opening up this statement of belief

    It is difficult to accept in any meaningful way what cannot be understood. “He is the Propitiation for the sins of the whole world.” Here are the definitions for “world” (Is Jesus the propitiation for every meaning of “world”?) 1a: the earthly state of human existence 1b: life after death...
  19. atpollard

    Opening up this statement of belief

    Layman question (this TRINITY thinking gives me a headache): Was not God the Son also “perfectly Holy”? He cannot be separated from himself (Hypostatic Union stuff). [now I need an aspirin] ;)
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