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Catholics Need to Read Their Bibles (from Catholic Answers) “The Bible-reading habits of Catholics lag far behind those of Evangelical Protestants. For their part, Evangelicals are usually ignorant of Church history, at least those nearly fifteen centuries before Martin Luther came along. It’s a...

“When men choose not to believe in [the truth about] God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing, they then become capable of believing in anything.” ― G.K. Chesterton

I find these discussions fascinating because the innate assumption that people experienced “Calvinism” first and learned of God through that lens is so antithetical to my personal experience. I came to Christianity from a strong ATHEIST background, no mere “unsure” or “doubt” but from a...

Respectfully, why don’t you quote whatever you like from Hebrews and underline the word WRATH for me because I still do not see God’s wrathful anger at me being transferred to Jesus. I have no idea what would make you think that I do not believe: - Jesus died to forgive my sins, - Jesus’...

Nope. No more than Joseph was just a victim of his brother’s hatred. It WAS God’s plan that Joseph should be sold into slavery in Egypt. His brothers WERE guilty of the sin which they committed. Both are simultaneously true. John 10:17-18 [ESV] For this reason the Father loves me, because I lay...

[Heb 9:22 ESV] 22 Indeed, under the law almost everything is purified with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins. … says nothing about Christ suffering my wrath from the hand of God, does it. Thus the shedding of blood (by evil men according to scripture) is...

"In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus caritas" (In essentials, unity; in non-essentials, liberty; in all things, charity) To demonize those with whom you disagree over “dubiis libertas” is contrary to “omnibus caritas” and not very WWJD-like. Neither JonC nor myself are...

To be fair, it hinges on the word “propitiation” which has two common meanings, (regain favor or turn aside wrath) so it is equally valid to think (in English) that Jesus turns aside God’s wrath (like the propitiation to Zeus) as it is to think that Jesus restores God’s favor and eliminates the...

Romans 3:24-26 does not necessarily say this. That interpretation demands that “propitiation” have the same meaning for God that it has for pagan gods like Zeus. There is no forgiveness without the pound of flesh. Jesus could also be the “propitiation” as that which restores the relationship...

Respectfully, I find that more often than not, God is “clear as mud”. I would point to John 3 as “exhibit 1” and ask you to note that even the great teacher Nicodemus struggled to understand the simple, direct, literal “verbatim” words Jesus spoke to him. Now excuse me, I need to go and hate my...

Sad and brutally self-honest. There is nothing we can DO to deserve heaven.

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I was always bad as these that had more than one obvious answer … 1 or “infinite” (lines/sides)

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Fair enough. You had a limited goal and you selected verses that supported that goal. That is not my cup of tea, but to each his own.

Up to here you were off to a good start ... you were looking at blocks of text in context (although it is interesting that you stop right before the judgement is explained). In this part, not so much context as "cherry-picking". I am reminded of a quote "Any verse plucked from its CONTEXT, is...

Go for it. I have no issue with anyone agreeing with Free Will or Arminianism or with anyone disagreeing with the Doctrines of Grace. As I have stated previously, changing hearts is the job of the Holy Spirit not mine (it is above my pay grade).

My comment was directed to @cjab as a personal observation in direct response to his comments. So I am “ignoring” nothing, rather I was offering a very specific response to a very specific conversation. It is not I who was teaching it … it is what John 6:44 specifically states. John 6:44...

That was not my argument. Four of the five “Doctrines of Grace” (TU*IP) were found in some form in just that one verse, and yet YOU claimed Calvinists discuss their faith … … clearly implying that TULIP was extra-Biblical. So, I presented “God’s Word” in support of TULIP. YOU may consider...