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While the verbiage is Biblical, as a native English reader with no formal theology education, it holds the exact same ambiguity as the scripture verse quoted. Of what value is meaningless TRUTH? He (Jesus) is the Propitiation (object that turns aside wrath and reconciles) for the sins (actions...

It is a subtle point, but just for the record, I do not believe that Jesus has a foot on the head of those in torment holding them in Hell … the locks on the gates of Hell were broken in AD 33 when Jesus led the captives free. Those still languishing in Hell do so because Hell is the only place...

So our promised life in Christ is also only temporary? It is the EXACT same word and the fates are equal and opposite. That is the point of the story and verse.

Posts are accumulating faster than I can read them, so let me just ask: Have you bothered to discuss any of the verses that do not agree with your position? How about Matthew 25 [NLT] 31 “But when the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit upon his...

When the Church tries to assassinate you while under a writ of safe passage, (rather than reform its corruption) it leaves few options. Luther and the Germans broke off from Rome to survive. Historically, we “rebaptizers” were just murdered by the Church for believing that Jesus and the...

I did. The rest of that post presented 3 things that seemed nonsensical to unite “in Christ”, thus “all things” (to my understanding) cannot mean all things without exception. Do you believe that sin and death will be perpetuated through their Union in Christ for all eternity? God forbid it...

How broad is “all things”? Does “all” include Satan? Does “all” include the false god MOLECH (to whom children were sacrificed)? Does “all” include the lake of fire? How would that possibly work: Satan and Molech and the Lake of Fire united in Jesus Christ? I am reminded of the verse “what...

I am not sure that Mur‘s belief is “universalism” in the traditional sense of the term. His emphasis seems to be an eschatological delivery of all under Christ (which could be closer to a denial of ECT than a belief in universal salvation). At the risk of excessive punning … “the Devil is in...

Paul told Timothy to sell indulgences? That was the straw of corruption that broke the camel's back for Luther and forced him to demand Rome return to Apostolic Teaching. Which of the ECFs mentioned this practice in their letters?

If you really want to discuss UNIVERSALISM (everyone will be saved eventually), then you should probably start a topic for that with these verses posted and then they can be discussed one at a time in context (plus contrary verses). This topic seemed to be about something else and I don't know...

Let us discuss this in terms of BAPTIST "Individual Soul Liberty" (as this IS a Baptist site and Mur is asking about acceptance of his belief (universal salvation) under "Individual Soul Liberty". [I was originally not inclined to wade into these waters, but what the heck ...] First the GOOD...

DAY 2 3 Q. How do you come to know your misery? A. The law of God tells me.1 (Rom. 3:20; 7:7-25) 4 Q. What does God’s law require of us? A. Christ teaches us this in summary in Matthew 22:37-40: “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your...

Haha. :) I can so relate. I was infant baptized in a Lutheran Church by an Atheist Father who just wanted the Grandparents to stop nagging and fighting over Catholic vs Methodist. Then I grew up atheist, was found by Jesus outside of any church and was transformed. A decade later, I was...

The answer falls under #2 (Local Autonomy). Each local body of believers is responsible to Jesus directly. There is no "Bishop" or "Cardinal" to create a unified set of rules or to step in. There is Jesus, His Holy Spirit, the Elders and Deacons (Local Leaders). That makes every local...

Absolutely. At its core, the idea is EVERY person answers to their CREATOR ... like David said "LORD, against you alone have I sinned" (when he had a man killed and stole his wife). The correct response to sin is to point men to the word of God, then it is a matter of their conscience and the...

1 Peter 2:4-10 [ESV] 4 As you come to him, a living stone rejected by men but in the sight of God chosen and precious, 5 you yourselves like living stones are being built up as a spiritual house, to be a holy priesthood, to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. 6 For...

Allow me a moment to discuss the DIFFERENCES and you can decide if any of them matter to YOU [You have no reason to tell me your response, this is just information for you to consider for yourself]. CATHOLICS believe that God has placed "Sacred Tradition" into the hands of men and passed the...

I lean heavily towards the old Baptist “Already and not yet” … … so I was ”saved” before the foundation of the earth when God’s plan was established and what WOULD BE was as certain as it it had already happened. …. And I was saved when the Son of God declared “it is finished” (and it was) and...

As a Christian (follower of Christ) you are called upon to seek fellowship with other Christians. You have an obligation, to yourself, to determine in your own mind what you believe about important Christian truths (including what truths are important). As a self-declared LUTHERAN, you would...

DAY 1 1 Q. What is your only comfort in life and in death? A. That I am not my own,1 (1 Cor. 6:19-20) but belong—body and soul, in life and in death—2 (Rom. 14:7-9) to my faithful Savior, Jesus Christ.3 (1 Cor. 3:23; Titus 2:14) He has fully paid for all my sins with his precious blood,4 (1...