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Whatever I post will just start another argument! You've seen several examples I've given and you never even considered any of them. Straight out of hand they were rejected. As a matter of fact, I'll bet, if I were a betting man, that you don't understand my objections to your view of...

Well, we've found that we agree on several things, but when it comes to predestination we are using different lenses for sure.

LOL, every single one of these points have been recently discussed and you have seen the other view, but you will not accept any of them. So it is a misunderstanding on someone's part! That much I agree.

That's a belief that must be believed, and contrary to Scripture, in order to keep Calvin's theory alive.

It's the hearing of the Gospel that breaks through the depravity of man. The Holy Spirit through the hearing of the Word of God cuts to the heart of man, convicting of sin, and revealing Christ. Heb. 4:11-12 "Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same...

This is part of the reason I find fault in Covenant Theology. It does not recognize Israel for who they are to God.

I see it as the Grace of God extended to all of mankind. It was always God's intention for all of humanity to have the opportunity to be saved. But it was necessary, as Paul said, that salvation first be offered to the Jews. It was Israel, the Jews, that God chose to take Christ to the world...

In Acts 11 the Church at Jerusalem had just discovered that Gentiles could be saved. This was the mystery Paul spoke of that was hidden from man, that God has chosen the Gentiles for salvation. Up to this point the Jews believed only a Jew could be saved. There were some who went about...

Barnabas seen in Antioch the Grace of God, he seen changed lives and the effects of the Grace of God.

This is why Peter said it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and turned away.

Obviously the Holy Spirit departs from one who falls away from repentance. They cannot be renewed to that repentance, they have committed the ultimate sin of blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is a gift and is present only by your faith in Christ, He operates on the basis of your...

Heb. 6:4-6 "For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance...

It's very simple, what got you saved is the promise of God, Grace through faith in the crucified Christ. If that faith fails and no longer exists, then your salvation no longer exists. Contrary to Calvinism, salvation is conditional. Dozens of verses show us this.

God's Elect are the ones who hear the Gospel being convicted of sin and seeing a need for a Savior, and believing, accepting the call.

Christ said that after He left, (ascended into heaven) he would send the Comforter (the Holy Spirit) and He would teach them all things that Christ had said, and He will convict of sin. The conviction of sin by the Holy Spirit through the hearing of the Gospel is the "Draw" that convicts man of...

@Brightfame52 The word "draw" in John 12:32 is not saying that if Christ is lifted up (crucified) that all men will be literally dragged to Him. It's a metaphor for the spiritual realm of drawing your attention to a certain detail. When the Word of God is given to lost man, the Gospel, He...

Titus 2:11 "For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men," Salvation is available to ALL men, BF. The "Draw" is a spiritual force that comes from the hearing of the Word of God. Remember Paul said, Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.

It's how God intended for man to exercise his free will. No one is in Hell because God chose not to draw them, they are in Hell because they rejected His Son. And there are several ways that can be done!

That is one of the many extremes the Calvinists must take in order to hold on to a dead theory!

BF, have you ever been in a Church service under the anointed preaching and notice someone looking uncomfortable? Maybe they seem unable to get situated in their seat, wiping their face continually, maybe breaking out in a cold sweat? That is the drawing of the Holy Spirit under the conviction...