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Calvinists and non-Calvinist do not get to PSA through the same view. There are many differences in the framework. That is probably for another thread.

I think he had the right idea, and why he is so widely accepted by the non-Calvinists.

Christ said, "if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto Me." If the draw is a definite salvation as you suggest, then you must be a Universalist.

It's been my experience in conversation that Covenant Theology and Dispensational Theology both agree on PSA, but with a different look on how they get there. The RCC denies it.

Every one of us chooses his own way. Responsibility comes with that choice.

"See that you be not troubled for these things must come to pass..."

The truth is, Cathode, the Blood is applied as Paul describes it in Col. 2, our spiritual rebirth that water baptism symbolizes.

Show me the verse where the Blood is applied in water baptism.

Cathode, let's reason together on water baptism. Just hear me out. Rom. 4:14 "For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect:" The Law was a system of works. Paul plainly tells us that faith is made void by works. Rom. 11:5-6 "Even so...

"Nothing but the Blood of Jesus"

Col. 1:14 "In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:"

I don't know what you're talking about "don't have the Holy Spirit until you are dead." If you understand the 3 phases of sanctification you will understand what I'm saying. Positional, Progressive, Ultimate. We are saved, we are being saved, we will be saved. If you've ever heard that.

I agree there are degrees of sin, Christ made that clear when He said "he that delivered me hath the greater sin." It would fit the bill that degrees of sin equals degrees of punishment. I think Rev. 14:11 is clear their conscience existence is forever in torment, whoever received the mark of...

Yea, like I would have the nerve to say anything to Peter. Knowing what I know now, if I had been in the presence of Peter in his day he would have thought me to be a mute. Other than, yes sir, no sir. We know where we stand, Cathode. We see things differently, nothing wrong with expressing...

I've never heard of a single person who refused to be water baptized. It's the reason for water baptism that separates those who fully trust in His finished work and those who must add to it.

Better be making sure that the forgiveness of sins comes from water baptism or by the Blood of Christ through repentance. It can't be both! Either Christ did it all for you, or you have to help Him out.

If you want to add to the requirement of salvation that a man must perform a ceremony on your behalf for you to be saved, then go right ahead. Ain't no cows in Texas if this is not works for salvation. And you know what Paul said about that!

I can't believe that you can't see that only the Blood of Christ can wash away sin through repentance. There will be no excuse for this! It's on you if you can't see that the repentance is what forgives sin! Adding water baptism or anything else to salvation is saying the death, burial and...

@Cathode You should be able to see in John the Baptist's baptism that water had nothing to do with the forgiveness of sins. His baptism was a baptism of repentance. It was the repentance that wiped away sins, the water only washed the dust from their clothing. The water was the symbol of...

No, I would have applauded Peter and gave him a big hug, if he would have allowed that. Peter said "Repent" first, and that brought the forgiveness of sins. The water baptism had nothing to do with the forgiveness of sins. You better get it right, Cathode. Salvation is hanging by a thread...