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Wonderful. We agree!! Peace to you

God predestined individuals to salvation, according to the pleasure of His good will. He predestined, He called, He regenerated, He bestowed faith as a gift, He sent God Holy Spirit to indwell as the pledge promise all is true. And He will raise up up in the last day. Peace to you

The Messiah was not hidden, but spoken of plainly. Scripture testifies the OT Saints were saved by faith in God’s promise of the coming messiah. Why haven’t you addressed Hebrews 11? I understand it runs contrary to your dispensationalism, but it is very clear. Again, we are speaking past...

Rahab is mentioned in Hebrews as an OT Saint that was saved by believing the promise of the coming of God’s Messiah. Naaman is not. Rahab believed and acted, prior to God delivering her. Naaman grumbled and complained and had to be convinced to go into the water. His “profession” came after...

And again, you are assuming many things not found in scripture. I will base what I believe on what scripture says. Scripture tells us the OT Saints were saved the same way we are, by faith in God’s promised Messiah. I know it’s difficult for you to accept this very clear truth, because it runs...

No. Rahab is mentioned as an OT Saint in Hebrews. She is one who looked forward, seeing the promises of God concerning His Messiah and had faith. Our conversation is about Naaman, who you claimed had faith like Abraham that was credited to him as righteousness. That is no where in the text...

What I said was that Jesus said the words He spoke were spiritual words. That means, imo, they are symbolic. The Apostle Paul says the Lord’s Supper proclaims His death until He comes again. That is symbolic. I do understand you disagree, but please don’t misrepresent my position as “adding”...

First, the passage in 2 Kings concerning Naaman says absolutely nothing of him being “saved” as Abraham was. It never says his “faith” was counted as righteousness. It doesn’t say he was “saved” at all. The passage says Naaman was ordered to go to Israel by his king. Once in Israel, he became...

Again, Hebrews 11 is clear. We are not saved by what we do. That is a works based salvation. We are saved when we respond with faith to what God has done for us, by the power of God Holy Spirit, in regeneration, drawing and conviction us of the truth of our Lord Jesus and our own sin that...

Jesus said they were symbolic (Spiritual) words, not literal words. I’ll follow what Jesus said. Peace to you

And you are surprised because………..? Peace to you

You are simply incorrect there was no gospel before the OT Law. The coming Messiah was a prophecy in the Garden before man was cast out. The promise of the coming Messiah is prevalent throughout the OT. Hebrews 11 is very clear, the OT saints saw the promises of God from afar and they are not...

There is a heresy of “mental assent” called sandemanism (sp?) and that is being expressed here. @Van changes to words of our Lord Jesus to fit his secular philosophy. Jesus you must “born again” by God Holy Spirit. @Van says you you must believe “some aspects” of the gospel. Again, @Van...

Scripture does not reveal everything Rahab knew or believed about God. It is simply a great assumption to claim she knew nothing of the promised Messiah. Hebrews 11:13 is clear the OT saints saw the promises of God (concerning His Messiah), from afar and were persuaded.. Hebrews 11:40 tells...

Oh those shells on the beach, now that is funny!!!!’ Peace to you

The OT Saints were saved by this same gospel… the “good news” that God would send His Messiah. We are privileged to live to see the Messiah come, and the fruit of His ministry, life and sacrafice, but the OT saints are not made perfect apart from the gospel. Peace to you

You are looking at the passage through the lens of modern culture, assuming she had gone through 5 marriage ceremonies and 5 divorces (not mentioned). IMO, Jesus was looking at her through the biblical standard established in the Garden and confirmed by Paul (the “one flesh” standard) The...

In the NT times, the Jewish folks had developed a ceremonial system for marriage: usually an endowment, a period of engagement (already considered married according to the Law… I e Joseph and Mary), a celebration party and so forth. Many were arraigned marriages where the couple didn’t know...

Agreed. Let’s base what we believe on scripture. I still haven’t seen any passages where we are commanded to have “proper ceremony” to have a “proper marriage”. I see no passages of scripture where men are given the authority by God to declare a couple “husband and wife”. If a couple come...

The OT saints were saved the same way we are, by God’s grace and faith in His Messiah. I know you are incapable of understanding this truth, being blinded by secular philosophy as you are. You deny God’s Word and His power when you claim God must use many means to bring people to salvation...