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    What can you tell us about Jesus's forever torture chamber?

    My Friend, You need to study as it is clearly taught in scripture. For you to question God's perfection and wisdom, is the conduct of an unbeliever, so you need to study, but I would suggest you need to repent of an such unbelief. You can remain in unbelief, but that is not recommended.
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    What can you tell us about Jesus's forever torture chamber?

    It sounds as if you have not considered what are known as the attributes of God. The God of the bible is infinitely Holy, just, and righteous. Your comments are like those I have heard from unbelievers, and not from Christians at all. Are you a Christian by New Birth? If so, it is not proper...
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    What can you tell us about Jesus's forever torture chamber?

    No, because the bible clearly says Jesus sends unbelievers into second death, which is conscious eternal torment. Mt.13:36 Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field. 37 He answered...
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    What can you tell us about Jesus's forever torture chamber?

    What are you talking about? Final judgment? If that is what you are asking, the saints in heaven sing : 19 And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God: 2 For true and righteous are...
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    In Perils Among False Brethren;

    Hello JOJ. I am sorry I did not seem to answer your question. Perhaps you are a much smarter person than I am, and I might not have understood the specific thing you were asking.? Sorry, if that was the case. As far as Calvinism goes, I am glad to find that you are acquainted with it, but I do...
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    In Perils Among False Brethren;

    Hello JohnC,What is on your mind? Yes, Ithink to a certain extent they should be. We are not called to be dead fish, floating downstream, but we are to hold fast to the gospel of the kingdom among a world of lost people in a culture in decline, and see if we can bring light in the darkness...
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    Divine Justice

    Sh, What you are missing is the fact that God can forget about our sins, because Jesus as the Lamb of God took the penalty we rightly deserved, and fully made a complete atonement for those sins. As propitiation the WRATH DUE US, WAS TURNRED AWAY.
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    Divine Justice

    John, It seems as if you are straining and over thinking this! That is the exact Person Jesus Came. Gal.4:4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, 5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of...
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    The Enemies Of The Cross of Christ:

    If you watch a police show, and there is a judge ruling about two criminals, the criminals are both guilty,but the judges let's one go free, and sends the other one to prison with no chance for parole! You would say that Judge was unjust! This is not rocket science
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    Divine Justice

    that would make God unjust, this is where you depart from the mainstream. You are suggesting one group gets punished for sins, and the second group, somehow their sin did not have the wrath abiding upon it. One group goes to hell the other who committed sins equally worthy of punishment is just...
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    In Perils Among False Brethren;

    A forum like this is in part for that purpose. You can agree or disagree, as I will do shortly. I believe that historically rooted positions that are denied, or called theory, or philosophy is an attack. When people have described biblically major portions of truth and others insist on denying...
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    Muslims having “Jesus dreams??”

    1._____ The Holy Scripture is the only sufficient, certain, and infallible rule of all saving knowledge, faith, and obedience, although the light of nature, and the works of creation and providence do so far manifest the goodness, wisdom, and power of God, as to leave men inexcusable; yet are...
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    I thought Baptists followed scripture

    https://graceonlinelibrary.org/church-history/baptists/the-rise-demise-of-calvinism-among-southern-baptists-by-tom-nettles/ Early New England The story of the commitment of early Baptists to the doctrines of grace is a picture of unity and fortitude. The earliest Baptist in America, Roger...
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    In Perils Among False Brethren;

    I believed in election and predestination , before I even know of any of the theological terms, or former controversies. As I read the bible, first as an unbeliever, then as a new believer, when I read about election and predestination, I just said, If God id God, He knows what He is doing and...
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    In Perils Among False Brethren;

    Hello JOJ, This is a good and important question. Not all Christians are Calvinists. To be in the mainstream of what is known as A "Calvinist" is to be the same as a rank-and-file Christian in that they believe the fundamentals of the Faith, Triune God, The fall into sin and death, Necessity of...
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    Did Jesus suffer God's wrath instead of us?

    Hello Mister Chris, Welcome to the Baptistboard., I just saw your post late tonight, so I will not fully respond at this time. I just wanted to welcome you, and say that you raise many issues here. In time we will take them one by one, see what we can agree on, and raise some questions for you...
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    "The Meaning of Foreknew in Romans 8:29"

    Jesus is the Elect Servant, and individual believers are elected unto salvation IN HIM, He is the Head, we are the Body.
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    In Perils Among False Brethren;

    you say the same thing over and over,not sure if you are serious
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    The Enemies Of The Cross of Christ:

    We will see what happens moving forward. I see Calvinists being attacked quite often, but not really with scripture. Very few who comment seem to be doing an honest search for truth. I think we should all be doing that.
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    The Enemies Of The Cross of Christ:

    Here in yet another ungodly dishonest post, John is totally dishonest once again. He cannot post without making an unfounded and false accusation and shows himself to be an accuser of the brethren. Try and post honestly. Ihave told you at least a dozen times not to do this. You need to repent...
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