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There is no 'so called elect"in scripture. There is in sripture the elect of God. 1 Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God's elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness; 2 In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie...

Randomness pt3 What about the idea of “randomness”? It is a term closely related to “chance.” Many of the same issues come up. Once again, people may differ in what they mean. Merriam-Webster online provides two senses for the adjective random, and each of these two has two subdivisions. So...

God’s comprehensive rule pt2 The idea of chance has a role in Christian understanding because it is tied to our view of God. We need to consider the nature of God’s knowledge and the nature of his actions ruling the world. Open theism maintains that certain future events, in particular events...

KYREDNECK, I found this article that might be of interest to you as it answers your post very well. https://frame-poythress.org/how-should-christians-understand-chance-and-randomness/ pt1 How should Christians understand chance and randomness? September 26, 2019 By Vern Poythress I...

Yes, of course. That is exactly what the bible teaches. Misguided dispensational ideas have led many astray.

why do you say that? what do you mean?

Are jew and gentile in the eternal state the same, or different? Could you clarify your statement? Why are all the OT. people mentioned in Hebrews 11,,,The faith Chapter, if they were not saved people?

This sounds like a "gospel of works". Why do you think this is the biblical pathway?

hello Kyredneck, Thanks for your response. Were you just playing the so called devil's advocate or do you think these passages support this idea? I am not sure you would like to use these verses to defend this idea being expressed ,do you? Let's take for example your jer.32 passage. Do you...

It looks as if you have invented your own version of a gospel that no one else follows???What is up with that? Are you a secret Calvinist? You seem to be obsessed with this theology. Do you secretly covet to understand the teaching correctly. Just ask the Calvinist's they will help you.

What list of verses is that? Which god allows that? Has anyone ever mentioned that your ideas are out of mainstream thought?

What was his motivation? Did he oppose the doctrines of grace? VS 12 says that the result was others believed true doctrine after it was pointed out, that Elymus opposed it. It was against the error of being against the truth!

8 But Elymas the sorcerer (for so is his name by interpretation) withstood them, seeking to turn away the deputy from the faith. 9 Then Saul, (who also is called Paul,) filled with the Holy Ghost, set his eyes on him. 10 And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the...

It looks like you lack understanding on how these terms have different meanings. You suggest that things happen by chance? The fact is God ordains whatsoever comes to pass. To deny this, is to deny God is not in control of things, but only a bystander waiting to see what chance encounters will...

Are you now suggesting that God is not God? Are you saying that God cannot do what He wants?

A young Christian, who is a Christian, indeed, has salvation, but until the fruit of the Spirit works in and through him, experientially, he most likely will lack...ASSURANCE of salvation, but not actual salvation itself! I asked the OP, poster if he had any evidence of God working in his life...

Spoken like a true calvinist!

God is able to GRAFT THEM IN AGAIN....Romans 11: 23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again. 24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree...

The elect remnant from the jewish nation, and elect gentiles who are branches of the olive tree that are grafted in, replacing unbelieving Jews, now form the true Israel of God. There is now one new man, not a divided heavenly/earthly people. The middle wall has been eternally broken down.

Yes indeed, John Gill of course got this issue correct, as it is quite clear in scripture. It is stunning how anyone who studies this out comes up with any other conclusion. Thanks for another solid post!