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It never ends, does it? I've said what I needed to say, what I was expected to say.

Whatever it is, it's not an ology found in Scripture.

"Jesus didn't do all the work alone" for our salvation?" My goodness, the hair is standing up on the back of my neck! Oh man, this is really bad, Cathode! Salvation is hanging by a thread!

Whatever you say, Van.

No Cathode, let's get the full sentence in that Peter said. "The like figure (symbol of baptism) whereunto even baptism does also now save us...." Peter is representing water baptism as a "like figure" a symbol of the baptism that saves us. Paul tells us what that baptism is in Colossians 2...

Are you a full or partial Annihilationist.

I'm going to have to reevaluate the way I read posts from now on, knowing you're an Annihilationist.

There's not for you if you choose to overlook it. But that doesn't change the fact it's there!

It's confusing arguing with you, BF. I just want us all to be in good standing when stand at that Judgment Seat.

No, I'm just dead set against adding anything to salvation other than faith in the finished work of Christ ALONE!

We just found something else in common!

Before he became that devil, how did he go out with the others soon to be apostles and heal the sick, give the blind sight, and perform all those miracles without being saved at that time?

I'm still stunned you're an Annihilationist. I'll say the resistance you've met along the way is quite considerable.

I don't know what "Race" has to do with our conversation.

Hello, Cathode! Here we are again finding our many differences in Scripture. That's the way it is. I can't place any faith for salvation in a ceremony where I'm depending on another man to perform it. That's the same type problem Paul had with the Galatian Church, with man performing...

It makes all the difference. Those religious leaders "were not of God" and there is no way they could believe what Christ was saying. God's interest was far from their hearts.

Christ was talking to the religious leaders in John 8:47, the Pharisees, telling them they were not who they claimed to be, they didn't have God in their hearts, they are imposters, how could you believe what I'm saying. They had their own interests at heart, not God's interest. Do you...

Yes, we agree on that! We will all appear before the judgment seat of Christ to answer for what we have done in this life, whether it's good or bad. This is the judgment of the just in Christ, not for sin, but for our faithfulness and motivation in what we did and didn't do as servants of Christ.

OK, BF, you know I have to throw in my disapproval. I will have to answer for what I have heard and done, and what I didn't do!

If you place what you've said in the spiritual sense of water baptism, the circumcision of Christ in the spiritual realm, then you'll be in accordance with Col. 2. "Buried with Him in baptism and risen with Him through the faith of the operation of God." Then you can see that the physical water...