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I agree with you've said here, Van. We are spiritually dead until by grace through faith we become spiritually alive. The way I see spiritual death is that obviously God created man's soul to live forever it cannot actually die as in ceasing to exist. Man that is spiritually dead has hope in...

God does not always get His way with man. It's obvious God has given man free will to choose his own way. Man does have the final say as to whether he will obey God, that's why there will be a judgement against disobedient man in the end.

Well then, we disagree on who the "sons of God" are in Gen. 6:2. This has been argued for centuries, and it seems we disagree. Gen. 6:2-5 "That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. And the Lord said, My spirit shall...

There was a great sin committed in those days that prompted the flood. That sin was committed by the fallen angels that Peter and Paul said were chained and reserved in Hell until judgment. 2 Peter 2:4-5 "For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered...

Ok, I must be mistaken in believing the rhetoric coming from the left wing media and politicians is inciting violence to an already violent prone society.

Yes, I agree that was Paul's battle for the most part. We don't argue that much anymore, that is well understood for the most part. I believe what we argue now was not an argument in Paul's day, what we scuffle with was well understood in Paul's day. It looks as though the problems have...

@Zaatar71 Have you noticed in Paul's epistles that he would remain calm when correcting doctrine in the Churches, but when that doctrine in any way effected salvation you can literally feel the anger in his words?

I agree, the sooner you come around to my way of thinking we can get started on that, lol. See how that goes? Thank God He doesn't require correct doctrine, but repentance and faith.

I'm a strong believer in that you can be wrong on all the doctrines we discuss here, but if you get the foundation of all doctrine right (Jesus Christ) through faith and repentance, you have met the requirement God demands for salvation. I admit I have a serious problem with the end results of...

Oh, I see! That's a good move! I have several local Pentecostal friends that like to dispute the area of Dis. concerning tongues.

I've never been a Calvinist, never agreed with the end result of it. I'm really one of those who can't see it in Scripture, it's just not there, imho.

Have you been following the Dispensationalism thread that @Salty mistakenly placed in the "Other Christian Denominations forum? If so, what do you think?

LOL, I like the added touch, "blah, blah, blah," that will draw 'em in for conversation.

Are you serious, Z? There was a time in your life when you were not a Calvinist?

I guess you have been blinded to it from your teachings. Christ is saying you could be OF my sheep, you could believe, but you have chosen not to! They have willfully chosen not to be OF His sheep.

He says, "My sheep hear my voice and I know them, and they follow Me." He knows they are not His sheep, and they will not believe. "But you believe not, because you are not OF my sheep.

You can discuss all the distinctions between C/T and Dis. as you like, but I can tell you right now all those distinctions come home to roost in the different view of Israel and the Church.

Even the apostle of love had a balance. Yes, I given John 10:26 much thought through years along with similar verses. They were not His sheep because they chose not to be His sheep. They simply would not believe Him. Christ knew who was and who was not His sheep, who would and would not...

You probably heard that God loves you so much because He does. The most famous verse in all of Scripture says, "For God so loved the world that He gave..." The apostle John that preached Love in every way known to man wouldn't agree with you. But I have no doubt a variety of old hard nosed...

Not all Calvinists teach the love of God for mankind, there are some here on these forums that teach God doesn't love everyone. That God does not offer His salvation to all of mankind. I'm surprised you haven't heard what I have heard from the lost.