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    Snuggling With Satan?

    God CANNOT just excuse away our past sins, for they incurred Him to have a Holy wrath towards us and to judge us as guilty before the Law, so he cannot just pat us on the head and tell us just act better now
  2. J

    JESUS SUFFERED THE WRATH OF GOD EQUIVALENT OF OUR ETERNAL HELL.

    You keep not stating just on what basis how and why our sins were fully forgiven
  3. J

    JESUS SUFFERED THE WRATH OF GOD EQUIVALENT OF OUR ETERNAL HELL.

    You have to address though by what basis was the Father able to make us new creations in Christ then, for even if he saw up repenting, still must have that righteous anger and wrath towards us satisfied and appeased
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    JESUS SUFFERED THE WRATH OF GOD EQUIVALENT OF OUR ETERNAL HELL.

    The wrath and judgement of that sin debt we have to the Father was placed upon him at the cross
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    JESUS SUFFERED THE WRATH OF GOD EQUIVALENT OF OUR ETERNAL HELL.

    So to you Jesus limited Himself to not use any of His God powers and abilities, but was still fully God ?
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    Historic Premillennialism and Daniel’s 70 Weeks

    Some standard accepted works Core Texts A Case for Historic Premillennialism: An Alternative to "Left Behind" Eschatology (2009) edited by Craig L. Blomberg and Sung Wook Chung. This is considered a standard contemporary text that provides an alternative to dispensational premillennialism and...
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    Traditional Baptist Beliefs

    The actual theology pf us who hold to a Reformed salvation viewpoint though would go straight back to the Apostles Themselves
  8. J

    Traditional Baptist Beliefs

    Particular Baptist though go way back to time of the Confessions of the Faith
  9. J

    Traditional Baptist Beliefs

    The Particular Baptist views were THE Baptist views van for quite awhile
  10. J

    Historic Premillennialism and Daniel’s 70 Weeks

    My understanding is that we and Dispy Premil theology would pretty agree except on the timing of the Rapture event
  11. J

    JESUS SUFFERED THE WRATH OF GOD EQUIVALENT OF OUR ETERNAL HELL.

    Jesus died in the stead and place of all of the saved jews and saved Gentiles that the Father would bring to him as their Great Shephard
  12. J

    JESUS SUFFERED THE WRATH OF GOD EQUIVALENT OF OUR ETERNAL HELL.

    So Jesus put aside his deity and was Just a man while upon the earth then?
  13. J

    JESUS SUFFERED THE WRATH OF GOD EQUIVALENT OF OUR ETERNAL HELL.

    he died for those whom the Father intended to get saved by that Cross
  14. J

    Snuggling With Satan?

    Jesus became sin bearer, so he indeed received all that we were due to receive from the Father
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    An Alternate View (to the Penal Substitution Theory of Atonement

    The obligations imposed upon us by disobeying the law must be met for us to have available to us now the Grace of God, as we are judged and condemned by that Law, while Justified by that Cross, as sin produces in God reaction of righteous wrath and anger and must be punished, so the Cross meets...
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    An Alternate View (to the Penal Substitution Theory of Atonement

    Do you even deny that God imputed towards us while we were yet ungodly justification and very righteousness of Christ ?
  17. J

    An Alternate View (to the Penal Substitution Theory of Atonement

    It CANNOT be just that Jesus suffered a physical death, as in His death something happened that allowed for the Father to justify the ungodly and yet still remain perfect and Holy Himself, and Jesus just having a physical death accomplished none of that
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    An Alternate View (to the Penal Substitution Theory of Atonement

    Those who would deny Psa as being the primary atonement view though are really starting to following their own made up Theology, and they also have their own authors they follow, such as a NT Wright and others?
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    An Alternate View (to the Penal Substitution Theory of Atonement

    The Holy Spirit Himself does all of that in Us, but the Father cannot send Him to us to do all of that unless someone has paid in full and satisfied our sin debt owed to God
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