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Faith in the finished work of Christ is a doctrine. But that is the doctrine I separated from the rest of the doctrines needed for salvation. No doctrine can save man, only faith in Christ and what He did for us. (separating this doctrine from all others)

I hope you don't think that because I disagree with Calvinism I'm an enemy of the Cross. It's not a particular doctrine that saves, faith in the finished work of Christ saves the soul from the wrath to come.

Amen Brother! God didn't demand correct doctrine for the saving of the soul. He demanded faith in the finished work of His Son!

When God made this promise to the Hebrew children, He knew they would perish in the wilderness in unbelief. But yet He still stived with them in much long-suffering. Paul tells us they did not enter into His rest, and tells us to be careful in having a heart of unbelief if they did not enter...

Throughout the journey in the wilderness God continuously made promises to the people in what He would do for them if they would obey Him. We are not given a narrative of all that happened in the wilderness, just as we are not given a narrative of all that Christ did in the Gospels. Verses...

No, I'm afraid they won't. It's a dagger in the heart of Sovereign Grace.

Don't feel like arguing this stuff over and over. It's not good for the spirit to continue all the time in these arguments.

Here's an example of what I'm saying. God charges them with their sins and then pleads for them to return to Him in obedience. Isaiah 1:16-20 " Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil; 17 Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the...

When God "pleaded" with the Hebrews in the wilderness and at any other time, He is bringing them "face to face" with their sin and rebellion. That's how it is translated by some as judgment. God is pleading, showing them their faults while imploring them to return to Him in obedience.

The Hebrew word in Ezekiel 20:36 translated as "pleaded" is hit'chanen (הִתְחַנֵּן). This word means to beg, implore, or plead for favor, and it's often used in a context of seeking grace or mercy.

Ezekiel 20:35-36 "And I will bring you into the wilderness of the people, and there will I plead with you face to face. Like as I pleaded with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt, so will I plead with you, saith the Lord God."

If you agreed with me, Z, then I would have to checkup, but since you don't I know I'm on the right track.

LOL, I'm not exactly crazy about it. But I do like it in Chinese. I think it's the sauce that makes it that way.

The foreknowledge I see above is the same foreknowledge I see in 1 Peter 1:2, "Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied."

I view His "foreknowledge" in the same way I read it in other examples. When God brought the Hebrews out into the wilderness, He already knew the greater majority would not "enter into His rest." But yet He kept pleading with them to turn from their disobedience and trust Him. God foreknew...

Well there I go again, not paying attention to which thread I'm responding!!! I was responding to the foot washing here. Just scratch it and pray for me.

I'm certainly not saying I know it all, but I can usually spot a symbolization in Scripture when I read the context.

Just had some broccoli today, in meatballs, sliced mushrooms, and an Asian sauce for flavor, over rice. It's goooood, Salty, you should give a go!

I no way see it meant to be a literal foot washing. I see it as "an example" of the Servants principles in serving others and even placing them before yourself as the situation rises. I can assure you I'm not going around literally washing the feet of others, but I will serve them saved or...

I wonder if Mr. Philpot would see the love from the other side of the fence in Hell? Would he not be pleading, why was this person drawn and not me? Why am I in Hell, why wasn't I given the opportunity of that person?