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Christ said that after He left, (ascended into heaven) he would send the Comforter (the Holy Spirit) and He would teach them all things that Christ had said, and He will convict of sin. The conviction of sin by the Holy Spirit through the hearing of the Gospel is the "Draw" that convicts man of...

@Brightfame52 The word "draw" in John 12:32 is not saying that if Christ is lifted up (crucified) that all men will be literally dragged to Him. It's a metaphor for the spiritual realm of drawing your attention to a certain detail. When the Word of God is given to lost man, the Gospel, He...

Titus 2:11 "For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men," Salvation is available to ALL men, BF. The "Draw" is a spiritual force that comes from the hearing of the Word of God. Remember Paul said, Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.

It's how God intended for man to exercise his free will. No one is in Hell because God chose not to draw them, they are in Hell because they rejected His Son. And there are several ways that can be done!

That is one of the many extremes the Calvinists must take in order to hold on to a dead theory!

BF, have you ever been in a Church service under the anointed preaching and notice someone looking uncomfortable? Maybe they seem unable to get situated in their seat, wiping their face continually, maybe breaking out in a cold sweat? That is the drawing of the Holy Spirit under the conviction...

Calvinists and non-Calvinist do not get to PSA through the same view. There are many differences in the framework. That is probably for another thread.

I think he had the right idea, and why he is so widely accepted by the non-Calvinists.

Christ said, "if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto Me." If the draw is a definite salvation as you suggest, then you must be a Universalist.

It's been my experience in conversation that Covenant Theology and Dispensational Theology both agree on PSA, but with a different look on how they get there. The RCC denies it.

Every one of us chooses his own way. Responsibility comes with that choice.

"See that you be not troubled for these things must come to pass..."

The truth is, Cathode, the Blood is applied as Paul describes it in Col. 2, our spiritual rebirth that water baptism symbolizes.

Show me the verse where the Blood is applied in water baptism.

Cathode, let's reason together on water baptism. Just hear me out. Rom. 4:14 "For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect:" The Law was a system of works. Paul plainly tells us that faith is made void by works. Rom. 11:5-6 "Even so...

"Nothing but the Blood of Jesus"

Col. 1:14 "In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:"

I don't know what you're talking about "don't have the Holy Spirit until you are dead." If you understand the 3 phases of sanctification you will understand what I'm saying. Positional, Progressive, Ultimate. We are saved, we are being saved, we will be saved. If you've ever heard that.

I agree there are degrees of sin, Christ made that clear when He said "he that delivered me hath the greater sin." It would fit the bill that degrees of sin equals degrees of punishment. I think Rev. 14:11 is clear their conscience existence is forever in torment, whoever received the mark of...

Yea, like I would have the nerve to say anything to Peter. Knowing what I know now, if I had been in the presence of Peter in his day he would have thought me to be a mute. Other than, yes sir, no sir. We know where we stand, Cathode. We see things differently, nothing wrong with expressing...