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Why not? Did Adam reject the command of God? Do you really think Paul's free will was taken away? What do you think Christ's comment "It is hard for you to kick against the goads" means in this context? Act 26:14

Who said anything about overpowering God but it still comes down to a condition even then. "IF" God pushed someone of a bridge into the water then they would get wet. The condition is "IF". Even your question of whether I could overpower God is a condition. "IF" I could have overpowered God...

I asked you a question Van and you seem unable to understand that. You keep saying God has to evaluate ones faith and then decide if it is good enough to credit it as righteousness. My question for you was and still is: Why do you need to add words Van. Do you think He has to think about...

Conditional is conditional either way Tea. IF I push you off the bridge into the water you will get wet IF you jump of the bridge into the water you will get wet

Actually KY I find most of your comments to have very little substance. You just trot out the company line as if it were the truth.

You do have an odd way of reading the word of God. Not what the bible teaches but you do seem comfortable with following those calvinist teachers. Propitiation does not equal saved Ken. Christ's atoning sacrifice did not save anyone but did make it possible for anyone to be saved...

True but you were not saved prior to freely trusting in Him either. You were not "elect" B4 the foundation of the world. There is a vast difference between God's foreknowledge of who will freely trust in Him and God causing them to trust in Him. One is biblical the other is calvinism.

Remember I said you should understand context Ken. The us in vs 4 are the Ephesians believers we see in verse 1. Ken it is your false theology that causes the problems. It is your calvinist false theology that is the problem Ken. He can choose who He wants for service and He condemned Pharaoh...

KY why do you keep posting these silly comments? Real hard for you to have been saved by grace through faith since you did not exist at the time.

When the bible was written they only referred to two groups Jews and those that were not Jews, Gentiles. So world would still mean all of humanity Ken. You do understand context don't you Ken. I know that the calvinsts do tend to ignore it but you should still know what it means. But here we...

Well there is your first error Ken. No one was prechosen B4 creation. The "elect one" is Christ Jesus and on is only elect when they are in Him through faith. But going with your errant view then all the reprobate were also prechosen to be sinners so how do you reconcile God judging them for...

That is just Gill's opinion which happens to be from a calvinist view point. Are you now going to say Gill was not a calvinist?

@Van to use an expression that I heard a few days ago. I think the cheese has slipped of your cracker.

Maybe you should tell Christ the faith is a work and you can't be saved that way. Luk 7:50 And Jesus told the woman, “Your faith has saved you; go in peace.” And you say Paul did not preach a condition of salvation. Sorry BF your wrong again Gal 2:16 know that a man is not justified by works of...

The normal reply from calvinist is, well it is a mystery or God's thoughts are higher than our thoughts. They will not face the flawed logic of their position.

Do you not believe you were chosen B4 creation. Were you not one of the "elect"? Your post is rather confusing on that Ken.

So lets look at what you have just posted @KenH 1] God's elect will be enabled/made willing to trust in Him. 2] God reprobate will not be enabled/not made willing to trust in Him. So since God desires all to come to repentance and He could enable all people but He chose to not enable the...

My question for you is why do you need to add words Van. Do you think He has to think about whether faith is real or not. The bible is quite clear Van Eph 2:8 For it is by grace you have been saved through faith... Do you see the words God credited their faith first. Faith is faith Van...

So John Gill writes from a calvinist point of view. This may surprise you but I do not care what J. Gill has to say on the matter. It is just his opinion. Why is it that the calvinist runs back to other calvinists to support their view. If the word of God supported your view then why do you...

It is not fiction Van it is a question. The way you write it would seem that God has to think about whether to grant it as real or unreal faith. You seem to have a persecution complex Van. Not everyone that questions your views is out to get you.