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No such thing as good or bad luck Ken. Man makes his choices and lives with the consequences. The fact a tree fell is just nature, could be wind blew it over or the soil gave way. So not a yes or no answer Ken.

The word of God disagrees with your view Ken.

So you agree that your version of God determines all the sin and evil in the world and is thus responsible for it. Yes God is sovereign so I do wonder why those of the C/R view deny His sovereign ability.

As I said before Ken and which you want to avoid. If as you claim, God determines all things then He must have determined what happened. So did God determine what happened in Tennessee or not. A simple YES or NO will suffice as far as I am concerned.

So much better when you use your God given free will not to do so. The contradiction in your religion is clearly seen in those words Ken. Man cannot have a free will when according to your religion He determines all things. You keep trying to avoid the problem with these long comments but...

Not according to the C/R deterministic view they are not. You want to eat your cake and keep it to. Either God determines all things or He has given man a free will. Can't be both. I agree man has a free will and is thus responsible but your religion does not allow for that Ken. It is the...

According to your deterministic view God has determined all that you do Ken, even the fact you would not call me an obscene name. Even the fact that you can make any choices proves your deterministic view false. Odd how you cannot see that.

So no free will then not responsiblity. Well according to your C/R view God determined to tho happen. But again under your deterministic view man can not do other than God has determined for him to do. So man is not responsible for any sin as God is the cause of it. Isa 45:7 The One forming...

Then you do not understand the word of God. God holds man responsible for making choices.

That does not say sin glorifies God BF.

Just quoted the bible Van, so why do you not believe it?

God has chosen to hold man responsible for the choices that he makes. This does not downplay God or lift up man. We see in God's word that man is held responsible for the choices he makes yet you deny this clear fact. Why? Your view would make God responsible for all the sin and evil in the...

Do you not understand these words VAN? "by the Father." All you are showing is that you do not read.

Strange that you say God is sovereign then you do not allow Him to be sovereign. I have to ask, do you think adding the word "absolutely" makes God more sovereign? God is either sovereign or He is not.

Ken it is just illogical. You have God working against Himself.

Tozer is just showing that God is actually sovereign. Since God has chosen to give man a free will and thus hold him responsible for the free choices he makes then who are we to disagree with God's sovereign choice.

Do you not see how illogical this comment is "When God wills that a man sins, and when He so rules that a man commits that sin in his life, God does this without becoming the author of the sin in any sense. God hates all sin; God detests those sins which He sovereignly wills that man...

Why would anyone question the sovereignty of God?. “God sovereignly decreed that man should be free to exercise moral choice, and man from the beginning has fulfilled that decree by making his choice between good and evil. When he chooses to do evil, he does not thereby countervail the...

And you still deny the truths of the bible BF. We are all in the flesh/sinful but God has provided the means for even us sinful men to know Him. Your continued cherry picking verses is what causes you to have such a twisted view of scripture.

That makes no since BF. Sin does not glorify God. Rom 3:8 And why not say (as we are slanderously reported and as some claim that we say), "Let us do evil that good may come"? Their condemnation is just. You are condemned by your own words BF.