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Believe what you will BF. I have pointed you to the truth of God's word and you just dance around it. I only respond to your errant views so that those who read this threads will see the errors in your religion.

Convicting one of their sin is not giving one faith or saving them. So the question is valid. The bible itself is extreme Joh 3:18 Whoever believes in Him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe has already been condemned, because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.

Actually the bible speaks is quite clear of when one is born of the Spirit. It is when they believe. Act 10:44 While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit fell upon all who heard his message. Act 10:45 All the circumcised believers who had accompanied Peter were astounded that...

Read all of John 10 not just the verses that you think support your view BF.

But what is the work of Jesus for sinners BF. Luk 24:46 And He told them, “This is what is written: The Christ will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day, Luk 24:47 and in His name repentance and forgiveness of sins will be proclaimed to all nations, beginning in Jerusalem. Joh 1:29...

Well we can see your unbiased opinion there can't we. Well not quite. BF: We are 100% saved before believing because 'God gives faith as a gift'. That is a true refection of BF's view. SH: The Holy Spirit sits quietly on the sidelines until we are indwelt 'after we are saved'. You continue...

Actually you have just made the error of reading your religion into the text again. Joh 3:14 "As Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up; Joh 3:15 so that whoever believes will in Him have eternal life. Joh 3:16 "For God so loved the world...

None are so blind as those that will not see and you continue to prove that BF. The Holy Spirit convicts man of their sin, and points them to Christ. Man has to respond in faith/trust to the gospel truths before God in His grace will save them. Justification is immediate upon faith in God...

Fun Fact: Gal 5:22 is speaking to those that are already believers. We are told what is the fruit of the Spirit one of them being "faithfulness". BF and you it would seem have also missed that point. Paul distinguishes between the works of the flesh, [Galatians 5:19-21] and the fruit of the...

For someone that claims to preach the word of God you do seem to know very little of the word of God but you do know quite a bit of what those C/R teachers have told you.

Not what the bible says but then you rarely trust what the bible actually says.

This is really a simple question BF. When does one get the indwelling of the Holy Spirit BF, before or after believe? Is it A] before or B] after

He already did that over 60 years ago. BF I am not the one that has to twist the word of God to make it fit my false religion such as you do. You have chosen to follow a man-made philosophy and it has lead you into gross error. Many on here have been patient with you when trying to point you...

But God has intervened. We are told man has no excuse as God has shown who He is through creation. The Holy Spirit convicts the whole world of their sin. The gospel message has been and is still being proclaimed to the world. If God did not think man was capable of responding to these various...

And that is why we need good biblical discipleship for new believers. There are many false teachers just waiting to lead the new believer astray with fine sounding words.

BF you are just making it more obvious that you do not actually read what the word of God says. Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, Gal 5:23 gentleness, and self-control. Against such things there is no law. BSB Gal 5:22 But...

Did you miss the question or are you just ignoring it BF? When does one get the indwelling of the Holy Spirit BF, before or after believe?

BF you are showing what happens when you refuse to study the word of God in context. You make a fool of yourself because to deny the clear word of God. Rom 8:6 For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace, Rom 8:7 because the mind set on the flesh...

If one isn't born again, they are in the flesh, DUH. Rom 8:9 However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him. When does one get the indwelling of the Holy Spirit BF...

Jesus has always been LORD whether one admits it or not. We are told who Jesus is through the gospel message but the person has to accept that truth before He is Lord of their life. If you will note that the same Greek word is used in vs 30 {Sirs G2962} and 31 {Lord G2962} For the jailer...