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You are thinking of pagan myths here. According to the Greek poet Hesiod, Achilles' mother Thetis tried to make him immortaly by dunking him in the River Styx, but she held him by his heel and to that part didn't get wet. To cut a long story short, Paris, prince of Troy shot Achilles in the...

If that is what Spurgeon wrote, it is almost exactly what I argued on a previous thread on this subject. It does seem to me to be verging on blasphemous to suggest that Satan killed the Lord Jesus, not to mention being contradicted by a large number of Biblical texts. However, that is not to...

Joel Beeke is one of my favourite Presbyterians , but he's wrong here. Just believe the words! 'No one takes My life from Me, but I lay it down of Myself. I have power to lay it down and I have power to take it again. This command I have received from My Father.' What is it about the words...

Romans 3:23-26. 'For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus.....' So justification by God's grace is through Christ's redemption, which is through His atoning death upon the cross, as we shall see...

Hi @Zaatar71. What you need to understand is that although the Scripture says that no one took our Lord's life from Him and He laid it down at the command of His Father (John 10:18); although it pleased the Father to bruise Him and put Him to grief (Isaiah 53:10); although Herod, Pilate, the...

OK. It refers to finishing the work that the Father gave Him to do (John 17:4), particularly, in context, of providing propitiation - satisfaction to the outraged justice of God - by His sacrificial death upon the cross. It would be helpful to me if you would show clearly where you disagree...

I doubt you are much older than Iam (73), but if your eyesight is defective, then by all means use a bigger font, and please accept my apologies. I don't think it is. Our Lord knew that everything was accomplished (from the Greek teleo), so He declared, "It is finished!" (from the Greek...

Yep! Nothing to say that the devil had anything to do with our Lord's death on the cross. Nice Scripture though.

If you could possibly find a way to quote me, or if you could find some Scripture to give us to support your point, that might give you some credibility. But as it is, I'm afraid you have none. You continually accuse me of following Calvin, when in fact I have read very little of him as I...

Quite right! Good post! There is another couple of verses from the Psalms that are helpful here. Psalm 60:1-3. 'O God, You have cast us off; You have broken us down; You have been displeased; Oh, restore us again! You have made the earth tremble; You have broken it; heal its breaches, for it...

As so often, you have it exactly back to front. The Lord Jesus willingly pays the penalty for our sins, and then God removes our sins from us. Thereby God is just and the justifier of sinners. This is not philosophy, it's theology 101. I have no time to post more, but this is really all that...

I will just repeat what I said to @Van: writing in big print does not make what you say any more correct. Obviously I agree with all the Scripture you have posted, none of which, of course, contradicts Isaiah 53:10 and Acts 4:28, but I note that there is no mention of Satan in any of them.

First of all, writing in big print does not make one's argument any stronger. 'Therefore' applies to verses 28 & 29: 'After this, Jesus, knowing that all things were now accomplished.....' After fulfilling the last prophecy concerning Him that could be fulfilled before His death, He could now...

There is no text that says that the devil killed the Lord Jesus, much less that he pierced Him. And Satan having the power of death refers to his bringing death into the world through his seduction of Adam and Eve. Satan can do nothing without the permission of God, as Job could tell you (Job...

Exactly! You may say, I will clarify. By "the biblical text" I literally mean the text of the Bible.' but in fact you rightly compare Scripture with Scripture and realise that the text cannot be taken at face value, even though vast numbers of Roman Catholics disagree with you. I do the same...

I have answered this so many times. It was what God did. 'He was pierced for our transgressions.' Pierced by whom? By God (Isaiah 53:10 etc.). If you only look at the text of Scripture as you claim, why are you even asking the question? But to give the answer once again, if He had not done...

Well then, again I ask you why you are not a Roman Catholic. 'This is My body.' It's in the Biblical text, more than once. Why don't you believe it? I do not believe that Jesus suffered God's wrath if you mean by that that God was angry with Him.. :Rolleyes Once again, it was God Himself...

Hi @Ascetic X Welcome to the BB. :) I think it's really important to be a member of a church (Hebrews 10:25), and I'm sorry to hear that you have had bad experiences. As a Brit, I can't really advise you, but I do suggest that you not be too picky. There is a saying that if you ever find a...

The simple answer here is that I don't have a "philosophy." I just seek to understand and apply the Scriptures. I'm not sure that your understanding of the Scriptures is sane.:Tongue Well you should be, because that is NOT my understanding. Because I look at a whole variety of Scriptures and...

@JonC, Don't you think you owe the board an explanation, if not an apology? Do you think that Calvinism is another form of Roman Catholicism or don't you? Why should we believe anything you say when you contradict yourself in less than a day?