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    Why Confession?

    Jesus established the Apostolic Authority to forgive and retain sin so that by confession we could know that we made righteous on earth before the eyes of Heaven. Paul judged the man forgiven on earth, before the presence of Christ in Heaven. Serious sin, mortal sin, not only cuts us off from...
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    Why Confession?

    “If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.” Confession makes us righteous, and is the passing through the Faithful Gate to Heaven. “All mortal sins are to be submitted to the keys of the Church and all can be forgiven...
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    Why Confession?

    It was the Catholic Church that preserved the scriptures and determined and assembled the first Canon itself. That’s what it does, it canonises things. Knowingly or unknowingly we all trust the God guided Authority of the Catholic Church that did that. Every book in your bible and mine was...
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    Why Confession?

    Catholics had this understanding long before Protestantism or Baptists existed, conforming scripture to their doctrines and opinions was their opening act. They thought they were guided from on high, but you demonstrate that they were kidding themselves. Bible alonism is just ever changing...
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    Why Confession?

    You are pounding the table not the facts. These are clear scriptural examples. I think you would deny anything a Catholic told you, because it was a Catholic telling you. “Such are the words and deeds by which, in our own district of the Rhone, they have deluded many women, who have their...
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    Why Confession?

    The problem is that you have been alienated from the ancient Apostolic understanding of Scripture. You have been accustomed to the new human founded interpretive traditions, which vary even among themselves, never objectively settled in interpretation or doctrine. Luther and Calvin being lawyers...
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    Why Confession?

    Forgiveness is a grace, if we confess. Restitution is a sign of repentance, in Zacchaeus’ case he imposed it on himself, a harsh one, acknowledging that he cheated people. And he did gain Grace, by the acknowledgement of the Lord of his forgiveness. Clear cut case.
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    Why Confession?

    Yes it is. “But Zacchaeus stood up and said to the Lord, “Look, Lord! Here and now I give half of my possessions to the poor, and if I have cheated anybody out of anything, I will pay back four times the amount.” 9 Jesus said to him, “Today salvation has come to this house, because this man...
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    Why Confession?

    You are getting terms mixed up, the sacrament of penance is the sacrament of Confession. This sacrament imposes a penance, a temporal punishment of sorts as part of contrition. This is what we see here with Paul and this character. Plain to see in Scripture.
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    Why Confession?

    Scripture proves it. The whole incident is a classic case of penance being imposed then lifted and Apostolic Judgement being made before heaven, declaring the guy forgiven. Fits perfectly with Catholic teaching and understanding.
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    Why Confession?

    Public congregational confession was a practice of the early Church, but the Church changed this so that people would not be fearful of public embarrassment. It was enough to confess to the bishops and elders, the importance being that people confess and be forgiven. This is a perfect case of...
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    Why Confession?

    The sacrament of Penance is Confession, or Reconciliation. A priest can impose any penance he deems necessary, after confession. In Paul’s case he imposed expulsion as a penance but lifted the expulsion when sufficient contrition was expressed. Penance is temporal punishment imposed by the...
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    Why Confession?

    “The punishment inflicted on him by the majority is sufficient.” It’s plain as day. This is not a mortification he inflicted on himself. Like I said, it’s sitting there like a matzo.
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    Why Confession?

    Paul is telling them to judge those inside the Church, and to expel the guy as punishment. “What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? 13 God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked person from among you.” Then lifted the temporal...
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    Why Confession?

    The Paul imposed the temporal punishment of expulsion on the guy. Then he lifted the expulsion punishment so that the guy didn’t suffer excessive sorrow. Clear cut case of penance/ temporal punishment being imposed. Anyone can read it for all time in scripture. It’s sitting there like a Matzo
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    OSAS Trap

    You really need your spleen checked.
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    Why Confession?

    I didn’t change God’s Word, I quoted it, even your KJV. It’s a clear cut case in Scripture.
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    Essential Doctrine from the Bible

    I think you will ultimately find out that you have been blaspheming Christ’s Church for years.
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    Why Confession?

    Mortification is self punishment, Paul practiced this himself. Penance is the temporal punishment imposed by the Church for the repentant. Which is exactly what happened here. He was expelled. “Sufficient to such a man is this punishment” KJV
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    Why Confession?

    That’s mortification, you impose cold showers and physical hardening to discipline your appetites. What was imposed on this guy was penance, temporal punishment, Paul’s concern that he might suffer excessive sorrow whilst being punished, which meant he was sorrowful and not being expelled...
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