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    Essential Doctrine from the Bible

    Yes, thats why we don’t follow them. None of them possess the truth, which is an unscriptural position. Catholics have avoided human interpretations of scripture and only follow the ancient Apostolic interpretation of Scripture, Apostolic Tradition. Protestantism = fallible conflicting human...
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    Essential Doctrine from the Bible

    You are still following fallible interpretations of scripture and doctrines therefrom. You really want to trust fallible interpretations and doctrines for your eternity?
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    Essential Doctrine from the Bible

    I’ll try explain again. I know you don’t accept an infallible Church. What you need to acknowledge is the fathers are saying that they aren’t coming up with their own teachings and doctrines from their own interpretations of scripture. “In this order, and by this succession, the...
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    Essential Doctrine from the Bible

    No. You aren’t getting it. The Church Fathers aren’t generating errors with their fallible interpretations of scripture. They are holding to the interpretations and understandings the Apostles handed down to them. ‘We are proving that this view has been transmitted from father to father, but...
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    Essential Doctrine from the Bible

    Have to stop you there. In Protestantism the theologies are made by men from their own fallible interpretations of the texts Scripture. Their doctrines are the fruit of new and fallible men’s interpretation of scripture. This is an attempt to recreate Christianity from textural criticism, and...
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    Essential Doctrine from the Bible

    From my perspective Dave. From others perspectives, the Catholic Church is the whore of Babylon. Don’t you want to be able to hear things from different perspectives or even contrary perspectives, or do you prefer an insular echo chamber. I don’t like echo chamber sites even if they were...
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    Essential Doctrine from the Bible

    Well thank goodness, I thought you were starting to sound like another guy. My ancestry here began with a highway man who was sentenced to death, but was commuted to life on a penal colony on the backside of the planet, what do you expect Dave, we say things as we see them, I almost shouldn’t...
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    Why Isn't Dennis Prager A Christian?

    The Roy Schoeman story shows he needed extraordinary graces.
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    Why Isn't Dennis Prager A Christian?

    The Jews I know that converted were through powerful spiritual experiences. A rabbi had been meeting protestants and learning more about Christianity, certain passages had gripped him from the NT and wanted know more. Whilst with them in their churches he felt the presence of God, while the...
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    OSAS Trap

    A major part of the reason Christianity is divided is due to speculative private interpretations of scripture. If you were going to, couldn’t you suppose the False Prophet to be from where Christianity has long condemned a so named false prophet already, in Islam. Has not Islam a future all...
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    Essential Doctrine from the Bible

    Don’t go conspiratorial on me Dave. Oseas3 is more than enough.
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    Essential Doctrine from the Bible

    Catholics are Word of God alone. But the Word of God is in two forms, Spoken and Written. The Holy Spirit has guarded both in the Catholic Church.
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    OSAS Trap

    Well the name doesn’t help. Protestant.
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    OSAS Trap

    Well I do get a head of steam up when Catholics are called satanic or pagan, or the whore of Babylon, especially as it isn’t true. Something has to be said.
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    OSAS Trap

    I try to explain my perspective plainly and straight forward, I don’t want to upset anyone. It’s just a perspective and I’m just a gardener, I have no status in the Church and have no training at all, so for what is.
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    Essential Doctrine from the Bible

    Tyndale made over 2000 translation errors in the New Testament alone, and he wasn’t authorised to translate the Bible. Besides there were already authorised English translations in circulation. Secular authorities had to act because potential heresy from mistranslation could cause upheaval in...
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    Essential Doctrine from the Bible

    Ultimately it’s up to the individual to be final arbiter of Scriptures interpretation, protestants Church hop all the time to settle where Scriptural interpretation fits their tastes. But there are countless churches of the individual that have given up on Church community altogether and are “...
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    OSAS Trap

    Succession is through the laying on of hands. s’mikhah in the Jewish Tradition was the leaning on of hands as a passing on of Authority to a Levite priest. “Therefore I remind you to stir up the gift of God which is in you through the laying on of my hands.“ Paul ordains and gave Authority to...
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    OSAS Trap

    Paul worked with his successors personally. “Now I know that none of you among whom I have gone about preaching the kingdom will ever see me again. 26 Therefore, I declare to you today that I am innocent of the blood of any of you. 27 For I have not hesitated to proclaim to you the whole will...
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    OSAS Trap

    The Catholic Church is not in disagreement with Scripture, it is in disagreement with your misinterpretation of scripture, and the doctrines that precede from those misinterpretations. These misinterpretations have a start date in the 1500s at the earliest, and are all traditions of men...
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