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The "true Israelites" of Rom 9:6-7 are speaking of a select portion of Jews (physical descendants of Abraham) who are saved. I see that we are just running around in circles, and/or that we have some similar doctrines. Here is what I stated, which you still have not debunked: Where we seem...

Your description conveniently leaves out the passage I specifically asked you about (Rom. 9:2-5), where Paul explicitly and specifically states that "Israel" is the physical descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Also, "Israel of God" is a term used in Galatians, not Romans. In that Galatians...

Paul also distinguished between the Church, Israel and the Gentiles (1 Cor 10:32). In Romans 9:2-5, he defines the term "Israel" Rom 9 NIV 2 I have great sorrow and unceasing anguish in my heart. 3 For I could wish that I myself were cursed and cut off from Christ for the sake of my people...

As per Proverbs 23:9, I barely think it is worth giving a response, as you've shown yourself incapable of coherence. Rev 20 NIV 11 Then I saw a great white [not mentioned in the sheep and goats judgment] throne and him who was seated on it. The earth and the heavens fled from his presence...

Hello. Can you quote the specific sentence that you are responding to? I tried looking back through my post and couldn't find how this interacts. Nice to meet you though :D :D

What was received was the Holy Ghost. It says it right in verse 33. I never stated that the promise received was the eternal son of God. Read my post(s) again. ;) What is peculiar about Acts 2:33 is that Peter says that Jesus receives the Holy Ghost at the exact moment that it is public and...

Greetings! Long time no discussion. I see you have misunderstood my post. I never claimed Jesus bestowed the Spirit in John 20:21-22. This proves my contention even more about Peter's belief of the Church being one body with Jesus. Again, I don't see John 20:21-22 as the bestowal of the...

Hello there! I saw your question. My answer is: the same way Jesus tells the sadducees that that scripture originally spoken to Moses was spoken to those sadducees. ;) Mt 22 NIV 31 But about the resurrection of the dead—have you not read what God said to you, 32 ‘I am the God of Abraham, the...

Greetings. I bumped into Zephaniah 1 today. I thought of this discussion. Zephaniah 1 states that only the redeemed will enter the kingdom.

Jesus can't talk about the Gentiles to His disciples? Obadiah talked about the judgment of the Gentiles to his Jewish audience (Obad. 1:15-17). Maybe you got the wrong chapter there bud. ;) In case you forgot how to look up scripture: Mt. 25:32 NIV 31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory...

Every single one of those loaded questions show me that you still don't know what a red herring fallacy is because every single one of those questions involved deliberate attempt to derail and was pulled out of thin air.

JD731 Said: The marriage guests you are looking at in Matthew 22 is not describing the bride. John 3 NIV 28 You yourselves can testify that I [John the Baptist] said, ‘I am not the Messiah but am sent ahead of him.’ 29 The bride belongs to the bridegroom. The friend who attends the bridegroom...

Covenant theology got its big push with 17th century Cocceius. Many people just accepted these apocryphal covenants applying to one people from Adam until 2024AD as true. Today, people actually believe "all things continue as they were since the beginning of creation", something Peter is against...

Do you know what a red herring fallacy is?

What a persuasive response! :Roflmao Well it's a good thing you posted a rebuttle. If that's what you want to call it. I almost believed my own position, that Matthew 25 is speaking about the judgment of the nations on earth, just like Jesus says!

That is a perfect distinction. The difficulty with which the rich enter into the kingdom of God, versus the ease of the Church gospel, of the death burial and resurrection of Christ (Romans 10:9-10; 1 Cor. 15:3-4), termed "the gospel of the grace of God" (Acts 20:24). Saints are allowed to be...

...rrriiigghhhttt... and you really think Matthew 25:31-46 describes a heavenly situation? Mt 24 NIV 31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one...

Do you mean the great white throne judgment? Matthew 25:31 is quite definitive, as you have stated, but to claim Mt 25:31 is speaking of the great white throne judgment of Rev 20:1ff is reading a lot into the text. First of all, Mt 25:31 is talking about the judgment of Gentiles, and is...

Greetings again Alan. You are in denial. Revelation 20 isn't the only passage in the Bible that describes a thousand years. Early premillennialists (eg Justin Martyr) related the thousand year perspective of the LORD being one day (Psalm 90; 2 Peter), to the premillennial text of Revelation 20...

I can intimidate with the bandwagon fallacy too: most pre-trib pre-mil would roll their eyes at this specific post. I, however, want to ask what is your source for this claim (and why you think that this method of persuasion is effective)? Source/elaboration? Obadiah 1:15-17; Mt. 25:31-46...