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[emoji23] so answer my question to yeshua in post 35 Again, you're missing the point ENTIRELY. Read the OP all the way through, especially to the end. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Most of them quoted many books as scripture that many Protestants no longer consider inspired. The apostle Peter tells us that all of Paul's letters were inspired (2pet 3:15-16), yet we don't have all of Paul's letters today. He wrote many that we don't have. Also, the Cambridge history of...

I do brother. So did Scofield and Chafer, to name some.

That's hard to believe ;) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Then you need to put on your reading hat, quit being so void of logic, and take a glance at the ENTIRE OP. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Just curious, how do you believe these fathers for whom no quotation has been given as of yet to their view on the church's rapture, viewed the method by which the church was to escape the tribulation? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Lol. Again, do some more research. Even Darby's theodicy can be found in Iranaeus. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Do a study on bibliology and you'll be surprised to find that the ecf are very influential/responsible for the very bible you have. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I fall into the same camp, and myself don't fit myself into the contemporary usage of "pre-trib." And to be honest I find it annoying that I have to repeat myself so often.

I like this! Just reading the following and I'm thinking about Roger Bacon, who may have thought to have been raptured to heaven. The word “rapture” has been commonly used in the twentieth century to describe the taking away of believers to heaven, but anti-dispensationalists insist that it...

A piece of sanctified work :Sneaky Can I get an AMEN !:Cool

There is not 490 years between the command to build and restore Jerusalem and the messiah's death. Suggest you read Daniel 9:24 in context. Where did I reject literal interpretation here? Lol. I disagree with tCassidy and he still is in the wrong but that's not my problem and I'm not going to...

Did you know that Ephesians 3:1-6 is in the Bible? And sorry I just plainly find it absurd to teach that everlasting righteousness has been brought in in history sometime, as per the post that you replied to (Daniel 9:24). Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I might also add, Yeshua, the following quotation: "The term 'archetype' [which is the hallmark of Jungianism] occurs as early as Philo Judaeus, with reference to the Imago Dei (God-image) in man. It can also be found in Irenaeus, who says: 'The creator of the world did not fasion these things...

Nope. Johns point was that these sevens are years. I win. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

On the contrary. And please see the edit. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

That right there is probably why you do not believe in the pre trib rapture. Do you really believe these are weeks that Daniel prophesied? Do you also believe that at the end of the 70thweek, some time in 400BCs, eternal righteousness was brought in for the Jews (Dan. 9:24)? They are...

Well, wasn't expecting that. Impressive! I'll get back to you. I have some history books that I could look at. Unfortunately I have a test tomoro (I'm in school), and this thread will close soon. So maybe I'll open a thread on this sometime in the future. Anyways, if you're right about this, my...

Should I waste my time explaining how dreams are valid regardless of what circumstance they're brought up in? Nah. Have a nice closed thread Johnny boy

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D If they're "facts", then give a reference there slappy.