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Agreed, as some would hold to heresy of baptismal regeneration, sacramental gracing, or good works plus faith saves us

You did, when you stated Jesus did not suffer the wrath of God for our sins

The Psa atonement view is though the majority among reformed, Baptist, both calvinist and non , and among evangelical armianists

For we still have to deal with God regarding our past sins before he will be able to feely justify us and declare us now to be clothed in the righteousness of Christ

A more biblical view on the Atonement

JonC must have overlooked these OT passages then The "OT cup of wrath" is a biblical metaphor, primarily from the Old Testament, that symbolizes the fullness of God's judgment and punishment for sin. It represents the wrath poured out on a sinful nation or individual, and it is often depicted as...

He is dead wrong, as the Holy Spirit authored thru those men the word of God, but that would not be God Himself

Jesus is NOT the bible, nor is the Holy Spirit

To claim ANY translation is the Holy Spirit is blasphemy, as no created thing can ever compare and be equal to the Creator

The bible is NOT the Holy Spirit, and inspiration to provide for perfection and inerrancy ONLY applied towards the originals

Guess that AI can do for us in studying the bible that the Holy Spirit is unable to do for us then

God foreknows all things due to him being omniscience, as in cannot learn anything new or novel to Him, as has always known all that can ever be known

Would add also very important to get to where the Psa view on the Atonement is re energized into Baptist pastors pulpits and at our seminaries

What disagreements on salvation, as think all saved here would see it as saved by grace alone received thru faith alone

I would step into any church that taught the real gospel

God has always known all that can be knowable

At least we would know what true Gospel meant

The same God though stated to us a universal law that one who sheds blood of another as min murder must die for that sin, and all who sin must die, so God cannot just make them new creatures without having someone die as atonement for their sins

Think many posting here on our Board totally misunderstand what we Calvinists really hold with, and also think some are not fully understanding the historically held view of the Atonement of Jesus called Psa.

Spiritual dead sinners cannot even desire much less will themselves to salvation