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If anything Eph 1:4 is the basis for believing in unconditional election, since God performed this gracious act of putting men in Christ before the foundation of the world, b4 they had any being. So when they were born as sinners Eph 2:1-3 they were already chosen in Christ

God only appointed the elect to eternal life, in that they are the heirs of salvation/promise Heb 1:14 Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation? Note: Heirs of Salvation is Eternal life Titus 3:7 That being justified by his grace...

https://www.godsonlygospel.com/the-doctrines-of-the-gospel-part-2 Any preaching of Christ and what He has done that is not as specific and definite as what He did, will always lead to some form of universalism. The angel in Matthew 1:21 declared election when he said of the Lord Jesus, "...He...

@Silverhair Does God desire the Salvation of these ? 1 Pet 2:8 8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.

@Silverhair Yet how can one hear spiritually if they aren't already of God as Jesus says Jn 8:47 47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God. Then what message did you hear that caused the trust in Christ ? AFTER that ye heard the word of...

If there be some whom God has elected unto salvation 2 Thess. 2:13, there must be others who are not elected unto salvation.!

Folks to say one was saved because they met a condition God set is saying that God didn't consider one dead in sin and totally unable to meet any conditions spiritually. Yet God sees all of us spiritually dead Eph 2:1-3 and not even able to seek God Rom 3:10-12

@Silverhair Thats boasting in what you did ! " The only thing that I did was meet the condition " A person who is really trusting in Christ would say that Jesus Christ met all the conditions with God on my behalf to save me.

Maybe God will open your eyes to see this, People are saved before they believe, because they cant hear the word of God until they are of God Jn 8:47 47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God. One is saved in order to be called 2 Tim 1:9...

Yes people are saved before they believe, because they cant hear the word of God until they are of God Jn 8:47 47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God. One is saved in order to be called 2 Tim 1:9 9 Who hath saved us, and called us with...

So you dont preach this Jesus Matt 1:21 21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins. The poster says jesus will give everyone an opportunity get saved, folks thats another jesus, Not the Jesus of Matt 1:21

Yes people are saved before they believe, because they cant hear the word of God until they are of God Jn 8:47 47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

Its stating a fact and purpose, no conditions, that's handling the word dishonestly

Its a false gospel and christ who came to only make salvation an open opportunity to get saved, if only man does something, the Gospel declares the Jesus of Matt 1:21 who came to save sinners, even Gods elect 1 Tim 1:15 15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ...

No it doesnt, Eph 1:4 is stating a fact

I specified it. What part isnt in Eph 1:4

They heard the Truth, the Gospel, thats the word of God, cant you read Eph 1:13 13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise Now Jesus tells us who hears the...

So you dont preach this Jesus Matt 1:21 21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins. The poster says jesus will give everyone an opportunity get saved, folks thats another jesus, Not the Jesus of Matt 1:21 Here is the...

One has to be saved to hear Gods word Jn 8:47 47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God. Its the same word, so the one who heard in Eph 1:13 was saved/of God in order to hear and believe

Is that what you call all the elect ?