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    God made them the vessels of wrath !

    2 Pet 2:12 12 But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption; The word for destroyed is the word phthora and means: corruption, destruction, perishing that which is...
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    Who will answer with a yes or no?

    Grace, God applied saving grace to noah , otherwise he was like this Eph 2:2-3 2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: 3 Among whom also we all had our...
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    Who will answer with a yes or no?

    Man by nature doesnt seek after God Rom 3:11 11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
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    God made them the vessels of wrath !

    I cant show you anything, you deceived. I showed you some are created by God for destruction, to perish. And yes Peter is speaking exclusively of the elect. If you weren't deceived you would know its the elect
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    Who will answer with a yes or no?

    God had mercy on him, he by nature was just like everyone else Gen 6:5 5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. Grace makes one alive to God even while they are dead in sin and able to do...
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    Who will answer with a yes or no?

    Man by nature doesnt seek after God Rom 3:11 11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
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    God made them the vessels of wrath !

    Dream on, 2 Pet 3:9 is about the elect, you are deceived
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    God made them the vessels of wrath !

    Dream on, 2 Pet 3:9 is about the elect, you are deceived
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    God made them the vessels of wrath !

    Again sir you deceived, 2 Pet 3:9 is all about the elect, has nothing to do with the created vessels of wrath whom God specifically created to perish, He is more than willing they perish
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    Who will answer with a yes or no?

    @Van Correct salvation is by grace, man is by nature dead to God.
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    Who will answer with a yes or no?

    Man by nature doesnt seek after God Rom 3:11 11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
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    God made them the vessels of wrath !

    2 Pet 3:9 excludes the vessels of wrath God made specifically to fit them for destruction. You deceived
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    God made them the vessels of wrath !

    You are deceived if you believe there are not those whom God created as vessels of wrath and fits them for destruction. He is more than willing they perish, so they are exempt from them of 2 Pet 3:9, which is only about the elect vessels of mercy.
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    God made them the vessels of wrath !

    The reprobate, which are the non elect were born to be taken and destroyed as brute beast. 2 Pet 2:12 12 But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption; The word made is the...
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    Who will answer with a yes or no?

    Apart from saving grace in regeneration, man naturally is evil only continually, his heart, his will Gen 6:5 5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. The word heart here lēḇ means: inner...
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    God made them the vessels of wrath !

    I have been showing you scripture
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    God made them the vessels of wrath !

    Another scripture that more than indicates that God purposely created some men for destruction and wrath in the final day of Judgment is Rom 9:21-22 21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? 22 What if God, willing...
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    Who will answer with a yes or no?

    Apart from saving grace in regeneration, man naturally is evil only continually, his heart, his will Gen 6:5 5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. The word heart here lēḇ means: inner...
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    When Did God Choose His People?

    Agrees with Eph 1:4 ! Also the chosen are the equivalent of them whose names were written in the lambs book of life from the foundation Rev 13 8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the...
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    God made them the vessels of wrath !

    The devil's messengers whom the lake of fire was prepared for, are them whose names were not written in the book of life, which simply are them whom God never Chose in Christ before the foundation of the world Eph 1:4.
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