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@Charlie24, How one may believe a same thing may differ, depending on other points of difference. There are different views on the Blblical understanding of the concept of the Trinity. Here the point is salvation has conditions. How one understands this, does differ.

I think this explains the point being made.

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@Van's first question is about a Law of God. My response, I later cited,

I made no such accusation of mind reading. It is not my fault you do not understand the point of Scripture I quote.

God who saves, keeps whom He saves. John 10:28, . . . I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, . . . There is not any passages anywhere where a stated saved became lost.

The promise of the New Covenant is in Jeremiah 31:34, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. Those who perish never accepted God's New Covenant. Which God Himself keeps.

Wrong. "Saved" is the gift of God. Romans 6:23, For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

.Acts of the Apostles 17:18, Then certain philosophers of the Epicureans, and of the Stoicks, encountered him. And some said, What will this babbler say? other some, He seemeth to be a setter forth of strange gods: because he preached unto them Jesus, and the resurrection. Then Acts of the...

Luke, John, and Paul's letters lack Psalms 22:1 which only Matthew and Mark include. Only John's account has Jesus' word saying it is finished.

Former professing Christians is a study. Luke 8:13, They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away.

It was an intented question, not an accusation. I hold we who are saved know so, without a doubt. And knowing God as a genuine result, we actually knowing God (John 17:3, John 14:6 and Romans 8:9.) Please feel free to check the Scriptures I had cited. Thank you your concern.

Romans 1:16, ". . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . ." 1 Corinthians 15:1-4, ". . . the gospel . . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according...

What are we disagreeing on? I do not think you actually know what we are disagreeing on.

So are you denying the genuine saved actually know God and know they are saved?

The religious and lost trust in their works. Verse 22. Matthew 7:21-23, Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy...

Romans 6:23, For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Those of us who are saved know God through the Lord Jesus Christ. Romans 8:15-17, For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children...

1 John 3:8, He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

It is understood God said in Revelation 20:15, And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. So how do you think one can know one's name is in God's book?