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Still waiting though upon biblical support for women as Pastors or elders in the local church

The great danger of Free Grace [position is can end up with many clinging their hope upon a one time altar call. at a crusade, at the church pews, and yet never really confirmed were really saved or just emotionalism. while extreme lordship gets us to never trust have been really saved, as keep...

Think that we as Christians should be following the method of the Lord jesus here , as those are for Him are not against us, as all of the redeemed are part of same family of God

Extreme Lordship though seems to be stressing must repent of all known sinning, but is the repentance more towards a change of mind regarding we cannot save ourselves by our works and behavior, but thru grace of God alone?

There are extremes in both so called Free Grace Theology and Lordship salvation positions, as those advocating for free Grace would hold that one be saved apart from good works and fruit evidence, as to their views sinners is saved very moment one professes jesus as Savior, and now having the...

Not in a Baptist Church

Jesus commanded the storm and walked on Water due to being God Jesus was enduring our due wrath and condemnation in Himself due to our sin debt being placed upon Himself as the sin bearer , not suffering due to His own sinfullness Do not see per the scriptures where God defined elect children...

Think we even those advocating for Lordship fail to see is that when the person receives Jesus as their Savior, they also received Him as their Lord, as the Father made that so when saved, but now up to us to submit over to that Lordship

Correct, as I meant 4 point Calvinists, so how can 4 pointers hold to free will grace view then?

Jesus is both God and Man, natures of Deity and sinless humanity in same Person, correct?

Would see it in the light of Baptist Reformed, not as Presbartarian Reformed and their view on the Baptism equating children as being included under the New Covenant via water Baptism now

The Father saw and treated Jesus upon the Cross as the great sin bearer receiving in his Person was was due to me as a sinner

Think many have a preconceived notion that Lordship salvations teaches saved by obedience and works

Think both tried to hard to prove their case, as Dr Ryrie wants to not be under legalism and bondage, but at times as you stated seems to be totally profess only required, while Dr mac wants to have strong believers, but tends to at times stress obedience more so than relationship and fellowship

Which I think my definition in the OP fits

I think many misunderstood what is meant by that term, but also at times those holding to it have gone to an extreme view. For example, saying that "unless Jesus is Lord over all areas of your life now, really is Lord over none" can make it seem like a legalism type based system. My OP posting...

Did not the Lord use one of his angels to kill off 185000 of the enemies of his people? Think key here self defense and appropriate force, as the security should treat someone just yelling different from someone standing up and emptying his gun on the crowd

Think that the biblical view of salvation would include a profession of faith is Jesus as Lord and savior, but such a profession would be evidenced by some fruit, such as a changed mindset regarding sin, God, church bible etc, and some type of good works unto others , so not just "faith alone"...

Just cannot see the Lord stating in the bible to us that self defense and protection is forbidden by Him, as He is the God of the Just war and that whatever one reaps they will also sow

That would be like saying that we hold Jesus to have a split personality