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The first point he makes is that OSAS was born from Calvinism, which thing he despises.

Yes he does, and makes an excellent case for it!

The Calvinists view PSA as a payment made only for the Elect, that's where I get off the train. I believe the atonement was the reconciliation payment for sin for the entire world. Limited Atonement is not found in my Bible.

I was more less focused on the discussion being repeated over and over with a different conclusion altogether. I can see though you have gained in nailing down your conclusion more firmly. I would think the same could be said of the opposite conclusion.

Not when two minds are locked in disagreement.

Yes, those are but a small part of the extremes I mentioned. There are Pentecostals who are separating themselves from such extremes. The ones I know here in town are more along the lines of the teachings of Jimmy Swaggart. If you overlook his great focus on the gifts, he could definitely...

Well, I won't comment, I see nothing to be gained.

I've found that the Pentecostals hold almost identical to the same theology as Baptists. Of course that varies across the board, but the ones I know believe the same. It's there focus on the gifts that I see as extreme. Some are more extreme than others, so less extreme Pentecostals is...

Have you down loaded that app that removes the ads? I've never looked into it but I hear its free or was, don't know.

Let's reason this out, Jon. The atonement didn't save anyone, that much we know. It made salvation by grace through faith possible. So our sin debt that cursed us to death was placed on Christ, enabling us to be saved and receive the Holy Spirit for our sins to be washed away by the Blood of...

Jon, I haven't seen anyone explain in these explanations why Christ became a curse for us. Paul said He redeemed us from the curse of the Law, becoming a curse for us, that we might receive the promise of the Holy Spirit through faith. Before the atonement man could not receive the permanent...

Same here. I've been clicking on the white circle left top and don't see the ad again until I switch to another screen.

LOL, that was exactly my thoughts on Putin.

Are you concerned with the Venezuela/Russia league and Putin telling Maduro he will support him. Trump seems to be tightening the screws and I guess we will see what happens.

I've read Calvin's commentary and he was solid, I learned much from him in my early years. He was just wrong on what we were predestined and chosen for. Calvin gets a bad wrap for predestination, but his faith was in Christ and I agree with Spurgeon that he may be so close to the Throne of...

It's unfathomable for the Calvinist to even consider the loss of salvation, but here in Ezekiel 33:12-20 that is exactly what we have. The righteous turning from their righteousness. It has nothing to do with works but the faith they no longer have which is wickedness.

Yes, I agree and He has one now in Israel. But these that God called on Ezekiel to intervene in His name were not of that remnant. God was pleading for salvation with these.

I guess it would depend on if in fact that oil was on the black market and reaching the terrorist's. I heard Trump say in an interview "we will keep the oil."

Sounds like a plea to turn to repentance to me, or face the consequnces. But you will see it your way and I will see it mine according to the God we project from Scripture.

This is the God I know and serve. Ezekiel 33:11 Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?" The death here God is...