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    Who are Jesus disciplines?

    Yep, the spirit of the anti-Christ. The Scripture is not inspired, just go ahead read it as any other book. Lord, help us!
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    Rightly dividing 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    Yes, I know your God created man to save some and left the rest to self destruction by His decree. He just chooses not to enlighten them the way He did for you, How lucky you are to be one of the Elect.
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    The sheep and the goats?

    There were promises made to Israel that were not made to the Church. You're somewhere in-between, where I don't know.
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    The sheep and the goats?

    I'm a traditional dispensationalist and we do disagree on several points.
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    The sheep and the goats?

    The Reformed view denies the separation of the Church and Israel, so they will shoot down my view immediately. I was just hoping you could get a better view of what I was saying earlier. The video was not in detail but more less an overview, there's much more to add, but I think the main...
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    The sheep and the goats?

    Merry Christmas, Van! I found this video that explains my position on the "judgment of the nations" better than I can explain it. I'm a dispensationalist and my view will not agree with the Reformed, it's just oil and water. This video is from Derek Prince and it's not as thorough as I would...
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    KJV Preferred

    You're not the only old dog around here that has used the KJV all their lives and will continue to do so. I led a sheltered life in the IFB Church and never had seen another version until around 20 years old in the Army. By then I was well acquainted with the KJV and the other versions were...
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    The sheep and the goats?

    Ok, Just explaining how I see it.
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    Rightly dividing 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    I have heard the similar testimony several times. God knew you would believe and He chose the right time and way for you to accept Him, all of His timing. In the end you chose to believe, but you also could have chosen to kept running and refusing. I guess it's an example of the...
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    The sheep and the goats?

    Yes, I agree, and they can also be nations. Israel suffers many hardships and loss of life when the Anti-Christ invades them with the armies from many Gentile nations. The goat nations are the ones that, "I was hungry and you gave me no meant (Israel) thirsty, and you gave ne no drink...
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    Rightly dividing 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    That was John Calvin's standard Calvinism. he believed in double predestination. How did God make you a willing subject for Him to drag you in? Do you think it was against your will, or do you think He made it your will.
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    The sheep and the goats?

    It's the judgment of the nations that takes place immediately after Christ returns and destroys the Anti-Christ and the armies of the many nations with him. Christ is judging who will enter into His earthly Kingdom of all the nations of the world. All of Israel is saved now as Paul told us...
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    The sheep and the goats?

    Ok, just presenting the way I see it. We are not all going to agree and have different views on it.
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    Rightly dividing 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    The general thought of Calvinism is God choosing who will be saved and the rest are left on their own, and since man is totally depraved and God has not opened his heart, they are doomed. The general call you speak of is not a call at all. Those who have not been chosen, according to...
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    Rightly dividing 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    Heb. 3:14 "For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;" We must hold our faith to the end, the end of our sanctification which ends at physical death. This why in 2 Thes. 2:15 Paul tells us to "stand fast." He is showing us how God...
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    Rightly dividing 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    Prov. 1:24-25 "Because I have called, and ye refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded; But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof:" Man can refuse the call of God to salvation and until you understand this you will continue to believe God has...
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    Rightly dividing 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    Immediately after Paul tells us in 2 Thes. 2:13, he says. 2:14-15 "Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle." Paul is...
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    The sheep and the goats?

    It's not about salvation, it's about justice being served on God's word. God has always loved and saved Israel from extinction, and He will fulfill His promise in gathering all who caused harm to Israel and serving justice. Joel 3:2 "I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down...
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    Rightly dividing 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    You have probably heard the old saying, "we are saved, we are going to be saved, and we will be saved. Those are the 3 stages of our sanctification. We are saved by grace through faith and have a position in Christ. We are being conformed in the image of Christ our entire lives on this...
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    Rightly dividing 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    What Paul did mention is "from the beginning God has chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit." Paul is not discussing who God has picked to be saved, but the manner in which believing man will be saved. He has from the beginning chosen man to a certain way of salvation...
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