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  1. atpollard

    When Understanding the Cross

    In your model, I am indebted to Christ and I am "squared" with God the Father. The Son offered MERCY and the FATHER owes me heaven (because I am sinless ... the wrath transferred and punishment given). I view that as a flaw rather than a feature. That no SCRIPTURE clearly teaches...
  2. atpollard

    When Understanding the Cross

    Why do we forgive? [and, no, I am not laying the groundwork for "Why does God ask something of man that He cannot do?" ... that is flawed as we are not like God so it is an apples to oranges comparison.] But seriously, WHY does God expect us to "forgive" and why do we choose to "forgive"? Like...
  3. atpollard

    When Understanding the Cross

    The following are not found in my bible ... "take (our/your/their) place" "took (our/your/their) place" "substitute" ... in any relationship to God, Christ or Justification. Where the words appear at all, the context is completely unrelated, like: Matthew 27:7 [ESV] So they took counsel and...
  4. atpollard

    When Understanding the Cross

    I would like to clarify the "entitlement" concept. It is more fundamental than modern. I owe a debt ($200 or a cow or 1 year of military service) and I am placed in jail because of that debt. My (brother, wife, lawyer) pays the debt (pays $200, delivers a cow, hires a mercenary to serve in my...
  5. atpollard

    When Understanding the Cross

    Yes it does. I entered the study from a settled position that it was to satisfy the JUSTICE of GOD. It is not an unreasonable or self-contradictory "thesis". However, if it is true, does it not seem like something sufficiently important for God to bother mentioning "specifically" in 66 books...
  6. atpollard

    Are You Satisfied With President Trump?

    Am I the only one amused by the irony that Trump (as a "true Republican") is a classic "Southern Democrat" whom Ronald Regan would violently disagree with, and the modern "Democrats" are classic "Socialists" that Fidel Castro and Hugo Chavez would applaud?
  7. atpollard

    When Understanding the Cross

    I was challenged to PROVE the transfer of wrath from scripture, and did what any unreasonable person would do ... located every scripture containing the word "wrath" and read the chapter to see what was happening. I discovered WRATH was a FUTURE event to be inflicted on the guilty. I found God...
  8. atpollard

    When Understanding the Cross

    I prefer this perspective.
  9. atpollard

    When Understanding the Cross

    Wrath owed is more like an insurance policy. The SINNER is making monthly payments to maintain the policy. GOD has promised to pay the WRATH in full when the policy matures on the Day of Wrath. If the sinner is still a SINNER IN BAD STANDING at the Day of Wrath, then God will certainly pay...
  10. atpollard

    When Understanding the Cross

    I just heard another "Christmas Sermon". As the child of a "Lily and Holly", I have come to the conclusion that it is impossible for a pastor to preach about Christ and Salvation without using the analogy of monetary debt sooner or later. This time, it stirred a thought about this PSA debate...
  11. atpollard

    Is this a war crime

    BBC story on the incident: BBC NEWS
  12. atpollard

    Women Pastors?

    The first, I leave to you (If you want a woman pastor, then place yourself under one … I am not your Pope, mother or the Holy Spirit). I do not believe that you are ignorant of verses on this subject and I was only asked for my opinion (“Women Pastors?”) which I gave. I never claimed that we...
  13. atpollard

    Women Pastors?

    Same reason as I am not an apostle … Because it is not what she was created for. God determines roles.
  14. atpollard

    Why? or Why Not?

    Good evening (9PM local time) @JonC, Here is wishing you and your’s a Happy Thanksgiving. (there, I addressed JonC) ;)
  15. atpollard

    Women Pastors?

    Women Pastors? No thank you. [‘nuff said]
  16. atpollard

    Eschatology

    I find it far easier to trust God with my own life (Whether I live or die, I belong to Christ, so I win either way) than with the suffering of someone that I love. God has a track record of not being shy about permitting His people to suffer ... often a LOT.
  17. atpollard

    Eschatology

    Luke 17:31-36 [NKJV] 31 "In that day, he who is on the housetop, and his goods [are] in the house, let him not come down to take them away. And likewise the one who is in the field, let him not turn back. 32 "Remember Lot's wife. 33 "Whoever seeks to save his life will lose it, and whoever...
  18. atpollard

    Eschatology

    I 100% agree that the word "heresy" is much overused (and abused) ... having become the Christian version of what "Nazi" and "Fascist" are in the Political arena. [translation: "How dare you disagree with me you bad, wrong person!"] However, from a strictly technical definition, I think...
  19. atpollard

    Eschatology

    Irrespective of whether one thinks the return of Christ is a past or future event, how can Jesus return NOT be a “big deal”?
  20. atpollard

    Eschatology

    “Preterists” (which includes me) believe that the “end times” prophecies were fulfilled in the First Century (while the people that received the original letters were still alive like scripture states and they expected. ”Full Preterists” believe that ALL the scriptures were fulfilled (including...
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