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  1. J

    Rightly dividing 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    I just need to know if you ever read the Bible with reason and logic. 6 And Judah took a wife for Er his firstborn, whose name was Tamar. 7 And Er, Judah's firstborn, was wicked in the sight of the Lord; and the Lord slew him. 8 And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto thy brother's wife, and marry...
  2. J

    Rightly dividing 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    God knows all things by one eternal act of knowing. If you have a father and mother the question is answered for you. God is not your father according to the flesh. You cannot blame God that you are a sinner but you can blame your dad and his father, Adam. Knowing that all men were under the...
  3. J

    Rightly dividing 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    God did not create but one man and one woman. From that point on, all humanity was generated. Genesis 5:1 This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him; The trinitarian image of the nations came through Noah Genesis 6:9 These...
  4. J

    The sheep and the goats?

    Paul, the apostle to the gentiles, essentially the church of Jesus Christ, who never addresses him as King, but rather as Lord, wrote 13 letters to the gentiles describing the grace of God in making a way for our entrance into this great salvation, never referred to us as sheep. He used the...
  5. J

    Looking At Luke 24:25-27

    I have two things to say Alan; Pr 14:8 The wisdom of the prudent is to understand his way: but the folly of fools is deceit. Not his words but his way. Isa 28:9 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? [them that are] weaned from the milk, [and] drawn...
  6. J

    The sheep and the goats?

    Sorry if I confused you, Van, it certainly was not my intent and what I said about believing words is just the common way that information is passed from one to another. Let me state my point again for clarity and maybe expand on it somewhat. I made the point that chapters 24 and 25 were both...
  7. J

    The sheep and the goats?

    Consider this argument for literal and historical interpretation which leaves opinion out. A most important adverb for understanding. If understanding takes place one must believe this word in the text. 5119 tote [tot -eh] from (the neuter of) 3588 and 3753; adv; AV-then 149, that...
  8. J

    Looking At Luke 24:25-27

    "beginning at Jerusalem," not ending at Jerusalem. I have read the whole New Testament and am aware of the history from then until now and this is exactly what has happened. Since God has freely offered it without anyone in those nations being required to earn it, which, of course, no one...
  9. J

    Looking At Luke 24:25-27

    The unpardonable sin of Israel took place by "this generation" in the showdown meeting between the Jewish rulers and Jesus Christ in Matthew 12. This was near the end of the 3 1/2 year ministry of Jesus Christ and I refer to this event as crunch time. Note what Matthew said about Jesus Christ in...
  10. J

    Looking At Luke 24:25-27

    Ones should read my op again to refresh their memory of my reason for posting it because no one yet has dealt with my concerns. I said the following; Then I said this As far as we can know there was not a single person, including those who were closest to him who believed it was in the plan...
  11. J

    Looking At Luke 24:25-27

    If he was called on the carpet in Jerusalem about going in the home of a gentile, it was by the apostles and Christian Brethren in the Jerusalem church. These men were unaware of the transition that God was making because of the failure of the Jews in Acts 7 to embrace Jesus Christ from the seat...
  12. J

    Looking At Luke 24:25-27

    Here is an important truth that seems to get missed but is revealed and proven to men by the whole of the OT scriptures and the NT scriptures. That truth is that unregenerate men, that is men without the indwelling Holy Spirit as a permanent member of their person, cannot understand the mind of...
  13. J

    Looking At Luke 24:25-27

    The date for Romans is 58 AD. This is 28 years after the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. It is the sixth Pauline epistle. It is 18 years after Peter was persuaded via a miracle of God that he was to go see an Italian to open the door of faith to gentiles because he, God was...
  14. J

    Looking At Luke 24:25-27

    I sure appreciate all the posters that have responded to this conversation. These things needs to be discussed and the scriptures need to win all arguments and settle all disagreements. I remind all of what our Lord Jesus Christ said here; Jn 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye...
  15. J

    Looking At Luke 24:25-27

    My overall reason for posting parts of this conversation with Cleopas and his companion was to raise the point that none of these apostles and prophets who Jesus chose to minister with him for his time on earth had any understanding of the necessity of the death, burial, and resurrection of...
  16. J

    Looking At Luke 24:25-27

    God prepared a highway for the seed of the woman that would eventually go through Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob through whom he made eternal and national promises and would be prefigured by the shepherd king, David of the tribe of Judah, the lineage through whom the seed would come. God gave...
  17. J

    Looking At Luke 24:25-27

    @Van Jesus Christ was not a bad teacher and he did not rebuke these disciples and call them fools because they understood the scriptures, it is because they should have understood them but didn't. The kingdom of God is a kingdom for saved Jews first. There is no other way for Jews to be saved...
  18. J

    Looking At Luke 24:25-27

    This passage records the words of Jesus to his disciple Cleopas and his unnamed disciple companion on the Emmaus Road on Sunday, the day of the resurrection of Jesus Christ. The hopes of the kingdom they had been preaching with Jesus for 3 plus years had gone away with his death in Jerusalem...
  19. J

    "There is safety in believing the words of the KJV Bible." A powerful quote by our Board member, JD731.

    The Bible is not for 10 year olds to understand. You think it is probably, but it isn't. Neither is the Bible for unsaved people to understand. The Bible is for a lifetime of study by those who wants to know the mind of God. God says it is here a little and there a little. The gospel is to be...
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