Looking At Luke 24:25-27

[JD731]

Jesus Opens the Meaning of Scriptures:

44; "And He said unto them, These are the Words which I Spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be Fulfilled, which were Written in the Law of Moses, and in the Prophets, and in the Psalms, concerning Me.

45; "Then Opened He their understanding, (SO THAT THOSE DISCIPLES NOW "BELIEVED" and) that they might understand the Scriptures,

46; "And said unto them, Thus it is Written, and thus it behoved Christ to Suffer, and to Rise from the Dead the Third Day:

47; "And that Repentance and Remission of sins should be Preached in His Name among all Nations, beginning at Jerusalem."

Then, notice how that after Jesus Opened the understanding of His 11 Disciples, they are the ones whom He Commissioned, as His first church assembly He was Building, for them, now that they believed, that BY THEM: "Repentance and Remission of sins should be Preached in His Name among all Nations, beginning at Jerusalem" and He described the Instantaneous Miraculous Gifts He would Give those of His 11 Disciples who now believe.

The "unbelief" and "belief"
correctly associated with the Disciples is the key to Mark 16.

Jesus Appears to Two Disciples:
(Luke 24:13–35)

Mark 16:12; "After this, Jesus Appeared in a different form to two of them as they walked along in the country.

13; "And they went back and reported it to the rest, but they did not believe them either.

There we have to mention again of "they did not believe", meaning, "that all things must be Fulfilled, which were Written in the Law of Moses, and in the Prophets, and in the Psalms, concerning Me."

The Great Commission:
(Matthew 28:16–20)

Then, "unbelief" is exactly what Jesus rebuked the Eleven about:

14; "Later, as they were eating, Jesus Appeared to the Eleven and rebuked them for their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they did not believe those who had seen Him after He had risen."

Talking to His Disciples Jesus Commissioned them, as a church;

15; "And He said to them, “Go into all the World and Preach the Gospel to every creature.

But, then when this next verse speaks about "Whoever believes", it is a separate parenthetical phase placed in between all the other ones, where Jesus is referring to the people who the Disciples will be Preaching to and who would "believe" "the Gospel" and will be baptized as a Fulfillment of the same Commission they would be Preaching to those Saved souls:

16; "Whoever believes and is baptized will be Saved, but whoever does not believe will be Condemned."

So, Jesus' use of the word "believes" there in that parenthetical phase, it is referring to those who would be Saved under their Preaching.

BUT THEN, JESUS REFERS BACK TO THE DISCIPLES, WHO HE HAD JUST REBUKED FOR THEIR "UNBELIEF" next in verse 17 and the Instantaneous Miraculous Gifts He is saying these Disciples will have, doesn't connect or relate to those in verse 16 who will "believe" and be Saved.

Jesus is now Addressing the Disciples again, directly, AND IT IS TO THEM AND NOT EVERYONE WHO "BELIEVES" FOR SALVATION THAT JESUS BISTOWS THESE GIFTS HE TALKS ABOUT.

17; "And these Signs will accompany those who believe: In My Name they will drive out Demons; they will speak in new tongues;

See? Jesus is saying that, "these Signs will accompany" "THOSE" of you Disciples "WHO" NOW "BELIEVE" "that all things must be Fulfilled, which were Written in the Law of Moses, and in the Prophets, and in the Psalms, concerning Me"?

So, the Disciples who now had their understanding Opened and "believe" are the "they" and "them" underlined here that Jesus is referring to (and not everyone who gets Saved)

Again, not all "believers", but those Disciples who now "believe" are the ones Jesus is talking about when He says:

18; "they will pick up snakes with their hands, and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not harm them; they will lay their hands on the sick, and they will be made well.”

I have two things to say Alan;

Pr 14:8 The wisdom of the prudent is to understand his way: but the folly of fools is deceit.

Not his words but his way.

Isa 28:9 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? [them that are] weaned from the milk, [and] drawn from the breasts.

 

[Alan Dale Gross]

Just throwing this out there, Charlie24, even though you may decide it needs to be thrown somewhere else.

The Kingdom was offered to Israel at His first coming

The Kingdom? was Offered? Where? Where is this 'Offer' in the New Testament?

but it was not meant to be.

Jesus made an 'Offer' somewhere, but "it was not meant to be"?

He came only to Israel for this offer

Again, 'Offer'?

"God will yet choose Israel" the first offer

God Chose Ethnic Israel as a Race and Nation? And that Choice made by God is something you consider an Offer?

Isaiah 14:1-2

"For the Lord will have mercy on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel, and set them in their own land: and the strangers shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave to the house of Jacob.

The promise here that God will "again" choose Israel means first of all that Israel, through repeated rebellions, had at this point in their History lost their status as God's Chosen people, a solemn truth emphasized especially in the Prophecy of Hosea. There were, of course, some new things in this second "choice" of the Israel destined to receive all of God's Promises. This also is spelled out in Hosea (See my comments on this in Vol. 2 of the Minor Prophets Series).

"The Israel to be honored in this "second choosing" would not apply to any race whatever but would be equally applicable to Jews and Gentiles alike. Gomer, the wife of Hosea, it will be remembered, was bought back from slavery by her husband, not as his wife but as his slave. In the same manner, Israel would be "chosen" again, all right; but her status was forever altered as a race.

"Moreover, their re-entry into "Jehovah's land" would be in the Church of Jesus Christ, not a re-entry into Palestine. It should be carefully noted, as Barnes pointed out that, "Although the names Jacob and Israel used in these verses simply denote Jews, they do not imply that all who were to be carried into captivity would return."(F1) Only a Remnant returned; and the undeniable meaning of this is that only a very small part of Racial Israel would be in that "second choosing."

And the people shall take them, and bring them to their place: and the house of Israel shall possess them in the land of the Lord for servants and handmaids: and they shall take them captives, whose captives they were; and they shall rule over their oppressors."

"The statement here that the former oppressors of the Jews would become their captives as "servants and handmaids" cannot possibly be construed literally. "The true meaning is that Jewish ideas (particularly Christianity) shall penetrate and subdue mankind generally, and that among such converts to Christ there will be those peoples who once had enslaved the Jews."(F2)

"There is a prophecy in Revelation 3:9 in which God foretold that racial Jews would "come and worship before the feet of the Church in Philadelphia," not literally, of course, but as beautifully explained by James Moffatt's Translation of the Bible (1929).

"Throughout the ages many faithful Jews have received Christ, and they are still doing so." Thus, in what Moffatt calls, "The grim irony of Providence,"(F3) "What the Jews fondly expected of the Gentiles, they themselves will give to the Gentiles. They will play the roll of the heathen and acknowledge that the Churches of Jesus Christ are the True Israel of God."(F4) (For further comments on this see Vol. 12, p. 80 in my New Testament Series.)

"The key to understanding this is in the truth that Christ Alone is the true Israel of God (See John 15.) Every believer "in Christ" is a bond-servant of Christ; and every Gentile who ever became a Christian "into Christ" thus became a "servant" of Christ, who is indeed the true Israel of God.

"No doubt the racial Jews of Isaiah's day mistakenly believed that they were "the" Israel of God who were destined to possess their enemies as slaves. It is all a question of understanding who are the "slaves" (Christians) and who are the "Israel".

"In this Prophetic Promise of Revelation 3:9, the "worshippers" are the convened Jews represented as worshipping the Lord, the True Israel; and in Isaiah's passage here, the "slaves" are the convened Gentiles, slaves of Christ. Thus, the "slaves" of this passage and the "worshippers" of Revelation 3:9 are merely "Christians" gathered from every race under heaven without racial preference or partiality of any kind.

"As Hailey put it, "The returned Jews never actually enslaved Gentiles. The prophecy was fulfilled as they conquered foreigners by the Spirit of God through the truth, `Bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ' (2 Corinthians 10:5)."(F5)

"To be sure, the ultimate complete fulfillment of this lay so far into the future that the prophecy could have been of little value to the Jews of Isaiah's times; and that no doubt accounts for the great fact that there were also included in the prophecy many things relating to immediate fulfillments.

"For example, the "turn of the captivity of Israel" in the ultimate sense related to the rescue of the Nation and their Deliverance from sin, as indicated in Luke 4:18. The peoples (Gentiles) taking the Jews and bringing them into their place had an immediate fulfillment. "This refers to the fact that Cyrus would assist them (Ezra 1)."(F6)

"There was also an immediate fulfillment of the Gentiles becoming servants of the Jews in the sense of their becoming fellow-worshippers of the true God, proselytes to the Jewish faith, of whom there were increasing numbers as the falsity and futility of paganism became more and more evident. Cornelius (Acts 10) was such a person."

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F1 - Albert Barnes' Commentary, p. 264.
F2 - The Pulpit Commentary, p. 14.
F3 - James Moffatt, Expositor's Greek New Testament, Vol. V (Grand Rapids: Baker Book House, 1919), p. 367.
F4 - Robert H. Mounce, Commentary on the New Testament, Revelation (Grand Rapids: Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Company, 1977), p. 118.
F5 - Homer Hailey, p. 137
F6 - Albert Barnes' Commentary, p. 265

 

[Charlie24]

Just throwing this out there, Charlie24, even though you may decide it needs to be thrown somewhere else.


The Kingdom? was Offered? Where? Where is this 'Offer' in the New Testament?

Jesus made an 'Offer' somewhere, but "it was not meant to be"?

Again, 'Offer'?

God Chose Ethnic Israel as a Race and Nation? And that Choice made by God is something you consider an Offer?


The promise here that God will "again" choose Israel means first of all that Israel, through repeated rebellions, had at this point in their History lost their status as God's Chosen people, a solemn truth emphasized especially in the Prophecy of Hosea. There were, of course, some new things in this second "choice" of the Israel destined to receive all of God's Promises. This also is spelled out in Hosea (See my comments on this in Vol. 2 of the Minor Prophets Series).

"The Israel to be honored in this "second choosing" would not apply to any race whatever but would be equally applicable to Jews and Gentiles alike. Gomer, the wife of Hosea, it will be remembered, was bought back from slavery by her husband, not as his wife but as his slave. In the same manner, Israel would be "chosen" again, all right; but her status was forever altered as a race.

"Moreover, their re-entry into "Jehovah's land" would be in the Church of Jesus Christ, not a re-entry into Palestine. It should be carefully noted, as Barnes pointed out that, "Although the names Jacob and Israel used in these verses simply denote Jews, they do not imply that all who were to be carried into captivity would return."(F1) Only a Remnant returned; and the undeniable meaning of this is that only a very small part of Racial Israel would be in that "second choosing."

"The statement here that the former oppressors of the Jews would become their captives as "servants and handmaids" cannot possibly be construed literally. "The true meaning is that Jewish ideas (particularly Christianity) shall penetrate and subdue mankind generally, and that among such converts to Christ there will be those peoples who once had enslaved the Jews."(F2)

"There is a prophecy in Revelation 3:9 in which God foretold that racial Jews would "come and worship before the feet of the Church in Philadelphia," not literally, of course, but as beautifully explained by James Moffatt's Translation of the Bible (1929).

"Throughout the ages many faithful Jews have received Christ, and they are still doing so." Thus, in what Moffatt calls, "The grim irony of Providence,"(F3) "What the Jews fondly expected of the Gentiles, they themselves will give to the Gentiles. They will play the roll of the heathen and acknowledge that the Churches of Jesus Christ are the True Israel of God."(F4) (For further comments on this see Vol. 12, p. 80 in my New Testament Series.)

"The key to understanding this is in the truth that Christ Alone is the true Israel of God (See John 15.) Every believer "in Christ" is a bond-servant of Christ; and every Gentile who ever became a Christian "into Christ" thus became a "servant" of Christ, who is indeed the true Israel of God.

"No doubt the racial Jews of Isaiah's day mistakenly believed that they were "the" Israel of God who were destined to possess their enemies as slaves. It is all a question of understanding who are the "slaves" (Christians) and who are the "Israel".

"In this Prophetic Promise of Revelation 3:9, the "worshippers" are the convened Jews represented as worshipping the Lord, the True Israel; and in Isaiah's passage here, the "slaves" are the convened Gentiles, slaves of Christ. Thus, the "slaves" of this passage and the "worshippers" of Revelation 3:9 are merely "Christians" gathered from every race under heaven without racial preference or partiality of any kind.

"As Hailey put it, "The returned Jews never actually enslaved Gentiles. The prophecy was fulfilled as they conquered foreigners by the Spirit of God through the truth, `Bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ' (2 Corinthians 10:5)."(F5)

"To be sure, the ultimate complete fulfillment of this lay so far into the future that the prophecy could have been of little value to the Jews of Isaiah's times; and that no doubt accounts for the great fact that there were also included in the prophecy many things relating to immediate fulfillments.

"For example, the "turn of the captivity of Israel" in the ultimate sense related to the rescue of the Nation and their Deliverance from sin, as indicated in Luke 4:18. The peoples (Gentiles) taking the Jews and bringing them into their place had an immediate fulfillment. "This refers to the fact that Cyrus would assist them (Ezra 1)."(F6)

"There was also an immediate fulfillment of the Gentiles becoming servants of the Jews in the sense of their becoming fellow-worshippers of the true God, proselytes to the Jewish faith, of whom there were increasing numbers as the falsity and futility of paganism became more and more evident. Cornelius (Acts 10) was such a person."

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F1 - Albert Barnes' Commentary, p. 264.
F2 - The Pulpit Commentary, p. 14.
F3 - James Moffatt, Expositor's Greek New Testament, Vol. V (Grand Rapids: Baker Book House, 1919), p. 367.
F4 - Robert H. Mounce, Commentary on the New Testament, Revelation (Grand Rapids: Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Company, 1977), p. 118.
F5 - Homer Hailey, p. 137
F6 - Albert Barnes' Commentary, p. 265

Acts 1:6-8

"When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?

And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power."

Israel could have had that Kingdom with Christ on earth at His First Advent, but they rejected Him.

At His Second Coming "all of Israel will be saved" and Israel will have their Kingdom with Christ, as Christ literally sits on the Throne of David.

 

[Charlie24]

Acts 1:6-8

"When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?

And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power."

Israel could have had that Kingdom with Christ on earth at His First Advent, but they rejected Him.

At His Second Coming "all of Israel will be saved" and Israel will have their Kingdom with Christ, as Christ literally sits on the Throne of David.

When John the Baptist came and preached, "repent, the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand," and Christ followed him saying, "repent, the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand," the restoration of Israel was being offered to be a Light unto the Gentiles.

It wasn't meant to be at this time, but at the Second Coming it will take place and Israel will rule this world under Christ.

 

[Charlie24]

When John the Baptist came and preached, "repent, the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand," and Christ followed him saying, "repent, the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand," the restoration of Israel was being offered to be a Light unto the Gentiles.

It wasn't meant to be at this time, but at the Second Coming it will take place and Israel will rule this world under Christ.

There are many that believe Christ will have no Kingdom on this earth, but they are not paying attention to John 18:36.

"Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence."

His First Advent was not the time for His Kingdom on earth, that will take place at His Second Advent.