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Jesus never died spiritualty, as he remained always very God, but did experience as a Man all the wrath and judgement form the Father due to all lost sinners that he came to save and reconcile back to the Father

The experience Jesus had was NOT like every crucified person had, as he suffered that physical pain and torment, but far worse was facing and enduring upon that Cross the wrath and judgment earned and due to every lost sinners that he would ever save

We derive our doctrines from the very word of God, as we clearly see them taught and held in there, but others who dislike the concpt of wrath of God as being pagan and foreign are blinding themselves to reading and seeing that in the Bible

Would be very interesting to read the full Systematic Theology of Van textbook

Election happens from eternity past

My bible stated that Jesus death for due to the predestined plan and purpose of God the Father, not satan

Satan had no ransom debt owed to Him, as the party that we are obligated to was God the Father, as our law breaking incurred a sin debt to Him, not satan

Chosen in the beloved before the very foundation of the earth, from eternity past

Without the Psa view of the atonement of Christ, there is NO basis for how and when the wrath of God was ever satisfied, nor any basis given with out that view as to how Holy God can stay as such and declare as now righteous in Christ

Satan had NOTHING to between in our salvation, as all he did was to be used by Sovereign God to help in the plot of wicked sinners to get the Lord Jesus upon that Cross, but all of salvation transpired between the transaction between God the Father and God the Son , as Jesus paid not any ransom...

IF JonC really has indeed read all of those listed authors, he would have been clearly shown via each on of them that the Psa view of the atonement would be the most biblical correct viewpoint to hold

He experienced what every lost sinner will for all eternity

Eternal secured by the sealing of and by the Holy Spirit

God already knew that

Yes, as many churches neglect to even give a sermon on real salvation unless its the required Christmas one

The earliest Christians as taught by the Apostles themselves were of the Particular salvation mode, not your full free will edition

You keep parroting the heresy of the full free gospel, but you either never quote the scriptures, or totally misapply/misunderstand them, as you indeed filter thru the lens of full free will

And think that those MANY reformers who were executed by Rome for denying the papacy and daring to get Bible out of Latin into English would very much disagree identical in theology and doctrines to church of Rome

There are some here who would seem to impose upon God human limitations though, or else would say that he imposed those upon Himself?

Freed by Grace (to Believe) Atonement for All Conditional Election Total Depravity Security in Christ Would be your version of Tulip