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  1. J

    I believe ALL who ever existed will be in God's Kingdom.

    Future event as that happens right before the eternal state, which we are not in right now
  2. J

    Divine Justice

    He does not have a basis for God to be able to freely justify them and remain Holy though , as God cannot just tell them "thanks for repenting and accepting jesus, so all of that stored up earned wrath just disappeared"
  3. J

    Divine Justice

    Due to breakign His law in any way is heaping upon us deserved wrath and condemnation and a sin debt that someone must atone for
  4. J

    Divine Justice

    the soul that sins must die, so in JonC theology, they do not need to die? They skip and avoid judgement period?
  5. J

    I believe ALL who ever existed will be in God's Kingdom.

    What happens to all of those who appear at the Great White Thrown Judgement?
  6. J

    The Enemies Of The Cross of Christ:

    The Father cannot declare a lost sinner to be now justify unless/until His divine Wrath is fully satisfied, and the sin debt is paid in full , as JonC theology seems to say God will save sinners by just accepting their repenting and asking to get saved, so says OK, my stored up wrath now just...
  7. J

    What Doctrine could keep us from Heaven?

    No person having been really saved ever got really lost again
  8. J

    In Perils Among False Brethren;

    You still have never explained just where did our deserved wrath God had stored up to place upon us in judgement actually went to
  9. J

    Divine Justice

    he cannot do that until and allow His divine wrath towards us as sinners gets appeased/satisfied, as the soul that sins must die
  10. J

    Divine Justice

    In order to allow God those get them born again, His divine wrath towards them as sinners must get appeased/satisfied, He cannot just see their are repenting and want to get save, so he just forgets their sins then
  11. J

    What Doctrine could keep us from Heaven?

    We can do NOTHING to ever merit anything from God, as it all grace period
  12. J

    What Doctrine could keep us from Heaven?

    Unbelief in jesus as being ones Savior and Lord and God , as holding to another jesus
  13. J

    What Doctrine could keep us from Heaven?

    Denying Jesus was and is God is surest way to get to wrong destination
  14. J

    The Enemies Of The Cross of Christ:

    He decides to let one murderer go free die to him having a change of heart, is sorry, confesses, agrees to do better, yet how would that balance the scales of justice though?
  15. J

    Divine Justice

    If this was the truth, then its still God deciding to "play favorites" as he should just be able to forgive all sinners, so if he only does seem, is that not him being cruel? That would be the logical conclusion of a doctrine denying that God actually has to have His divine wrath appeased and...
  16. J

    The Enemies Of The Cross of Christ:

    The Atonement "purpose" was to have the Holy Wrath of A Holy God directed towards all of us be appeased and satisfied by the father accepting the blood shed and death of Jesus as surety for all our sins , as that divine Wrath must be accounted for in our theology, as God does not just forget it...
  17. J

    The Enemies Of The Cross of Christ:

    God has been storing up for all of us divine wrath based upon our sinning against Him and His Holy law, and that sins MUST be atoned for and provide a surety towards a Holy God Holy wrath against sin To provide for God the very basis to be able to offer eternal life to any of us as a free gift...
  18. J

    In Perils Among False Brethren;

    yes, It is often attacked by caricatures and strawmen Is not when anyone rejects Psa for the atonement they really are reacting to the concept of Jesus enduring the wrath of God for our sake as being "pagan concept? Indeed Cosmic child abuse?" As have read various authors who used that very...
  19. J

    In Perils Among False Brethren;

    But when you conclusion in regards to theology proper end ups flying in the face of all the Creeds and Confessions, and the teachings of various expositors over the centuries, NOT just Baptist but across all conservative Christians theologies, that should give us pause to really check to make...
  20. J

    In Perils Among False Brethren;

    ALL of us here who are saved were saved the same way, its just that Calvinism explains it much more from the biblical perspective on how and why God saved us
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