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    The false doctrine of the Immaculate Conception

    Now you're proving that you don't know what you're talking about. The Douay-Rheims was translated from the Latin Vulgate and NOT the original Greek. Therefore - your ENTIRE argument against Mary's title of "Kecharitomene" goes right down the drain . . . The Greek of Luke 1:28 is κεχαριτωμένη...
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    The false doctrine of the Immaculate Conception

    I'm not "dismissing" anything. I already addressed this in great detail back in post #45. If you're not going to read my responses - just say so. But don't pretend that I didn't already address these verses head-on. No - the Bible is quite specific about what the Church is - and I laid out...
  3. M

    The false doctrine of the Immaculate Conception

    And nobody said she was - so why don't you try being honest?
  4. M

    The false doctrine of the Immaculate Conception

    And that "Mystery Babylon" manure comes from Alexangder Hislop's anti-Catholic book, "The Two Babylons" - which has been debunked from here to Christmas. Too bad nobody gave Jack Chick the memo because that's where you also get the "Semiramis/Nimrod" nonsense. Do your homework, dude. This is...
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    The false doctrine of the Immaculate Conception

    Ummmm, I DO believe in God's words - so I'm not sure what you're getting at.. That's because YOU don't understand what the Church is. Allow me to educate you . . . - The Church is the Body of Christ and He is the Head (1 Cor. 12:12-31, Eph. 4:3-6, Col. 1:8). - Jesus is Truth itself (John...
  6. M

    The false doctrine of the Immaculate Conception

    The Church ascribes to Mary what Scripture does.
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    The false doctrine of the Immaculate Conception

    And anybody who claims that the Catholic Church teaches "worship" of Mary is lying. Why don't you simply argue n the points made in this thread instead of resorting to dishonesty? As for the rest of your diatribe - I suggest you read what I already responded with in post #45 . . .
  8. M

    The false doctrine of the Immaculate Conception

    That is absolutely untrue. As I educated you in my last post and several others - The Angel of the Lord greets Mary by calling her "Kecharitomene", which translates as completely, perfectly and enduringly endowed with grace. It indicates a PAST even with a permanent condition and is not used...
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    The false doctrine of the Immaculate Conception

    Really? Soooooo, out of ALL of the women in history - God chooses Mary. to become the ONLY woman to become impregnated by the Holy Spirit and to deliver GOD incarnate to the world. Yet, that doesn't set her apart because YOU say so? The Angel of the Lord greets Mary by calling her...
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    The false doctrine of the Immaculate Conception

    Soooooo, God can't make a person sinless unless He does it YOUR way - is that it?? He HAS to make her entire lineage sinless?? Can you show me where the Bible makes this claim??
  11. M

    The false doctrine of the Immaculate Conception

    NONE of the verses you presented support the claim above in RED. Please post a verse that does . . . I explained ALL of this back in post #10. Please refer to that post and respond.
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    The false doctrine of the Immaculate Conception

    First f all - I already addressed the first part. Mary indeed needed a Savior - as we ALL do. The difference is that she was saved from her conception. An ancient metaphor best describes this as follows: Sin is a puddle of mud that we fall into. We are pulled out of that mud by Christ, when...
  13. M

    The false doctrine of the Immaculate Conception

    Yes, there are others. WE should be those others. The point is that most non-Catholics use this verse to downplay or denigrate Mary. If anything - this is a positive praise of her - not an insult dismissal of her importance.
  14. M

    The false doctrine of the Immaculate Conception

    Jesus answered the woman by giving her the example of a person who heard the Word of God and observed it. That was His mother Mary in a nutshell.
  15. M

    The false doctrine of the Immaculate Conception

    And where does it say that NOBODY else was ever born without sin? Don't start moving the goal posts because you stuck your foot in your mouth. Chapter and Verse, please . . .
  16. M

    The false doctrine of the Immaculate Conception

    Fair enough. Just to be clear, though - my "Chapter and Verse" demand was to @Yeshua1 for making Scriptural claims without presenting the actual Scripture verses.
  17. M

    The false doctrine of the Immaculate Conception

    Yes, I already addressed that "small t" traditions are not the same as Sacred or Apostolic Tradition which is on par with Scripture, per 2 Thess. 2:15. As for what should be more "clearly seen" in Scripture - I don't know how much clearer the type and fulfillment of the Ark and Mary can be -...
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    The false doctrine of the Immaculate Conception

    Okay - first of all Enoch and Elijah didn't die. They were assumed by God. Secondly - you have failed for a THIRD time to give me the SCRIPTURAL evidence for your claim. Chapter and Verse, please . . .
  19. M

    The false doctrine of the Immaculate Conception

    "ALL" died spiritually - or physically? Also - I asked you for the Scriptural reference. Chapter and Verse, please . . .
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    The false doctrine of the Immaculate Conception

    Fair enough. Paul places Sacred Tradition on par with Scripture: 2 Thess 2:15 "Stand firm and hold fast to the Traditions you were taught, whether by an ORAL STATEMENT or by a letter from us." Of course, this does not include minor traditions (small "t"), such as a saint's feast day, or a...
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