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I hold to the gospel as found in the bible not your man-made version.

Twisting scripture again BF. ALL means all not your so called "elect of all groups". That is just a false calvinist teaching.

So you deny clear scriptural text and twist it to fit your man-made religion. Drawing is the Spiritual application of Christs atoning work and is applicable to all not just some. His death was sufficient to cover the sins of all mankind but is efficient only for those that freely trust in Him.

BF I am the one that believes the biblical message you on the other hand have believed the calvinist message.

Paul wrote that the natural man will not accept the things of God and we see that is true. How many people do you know that have been presented the gospel message and yet they reject it. Is it because they do not understand it or is it because they choose to reject it even though they understood...

Not what the bible says BF. That is just your calvinism talking.

Then you are denying the word of God BF. You are just spouting the calvinist line which is not biblical.

Sorry BF but you have been lied to. TULIP is anti-biblical and anyone that tells you it is God's truth is flat out lying. I am accountable for being truthful in how I handle the word of God. You have failed in that BF by your continued denial of His word.

Only those that freely choose to trust in God.

You must be reading your calvinist bible BF. There is no mention of "the elect" in Joh 12:32 "And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all peoples to Myself." NKJV Joh 12:32 And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw everyone to Myself.” BSB Joh 12:32 "And I, if I am...

BF the word of God is God's truth, calvinism came from the 4th century pagan philosophy that augustuine brought into the church. So since your calvinism disagrees with many things in God's word it can not be God's truth but rather it is just a man-made religion.

One is only regenerated/saved after they have responded with faith to the various means that God uses to draw them. So all the unregenerate are drawn just as Christ said He would do.

Again you are teaching universalism BF. Christ draws all [Jn 12:32] and you say all of them are the calvinist elect so all would be saved. So those drawn by Christ "that's everyone" would be saved, that's universalism.

That is false calvinists teaching BF, it is not biblical.

So are you saying that Lydia, none of the Jews at Pentecost or Cornelius could understand the gospel message, that is not what we see in scripture. We see in scripture that the natural man can hear and respond in faith. So when we see this in scripture then it is obvious that you have...

There you go denying clear scripture again.

BF many will be drawn to God through various means but not all will turn to Him in faith. You continue to deny clear scripture.

BF you continue to promote universalism when you say all that are drawn will be saved as we know Christ will draw all man to Himself. John 12:32

Up to the point that one is indwelt by the Holy Spirit they are a natural man. The natural man can respond to the various means that God has used to draw them to Him but he can also reject that same drawing. Those that reject the drawing of God will remain in that state and will continue to...

BF you cannot equate the drawing of Christ to regeneration as that would mean you are saying all people are regenerated and that is universalism. Joh 12:32 And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw everyone to Myself.”