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  1. Silverhair

    Does Free Will Limit God?

    1} you have misunderstood what propitiation means 2} John does not fit your view on how he uses world 3] whole world actually means whole world 4} Eph 2:8 does not say faith is the gift, salvation is the gift 5} we do not save ourselves but God saves those tat freely trust in Him You started...
  2. Silverhair

    For Whom Did Christ Die?

    What is false BF?
  3. Silverhair

    For Whom Did Christ Die?

    That is what I said ZA. Did you not read what I wrote? Christ was the actual propitiation for the sins of the whole world. Which means that all have the potential to be saved but only those that freely trust in Him, will be saved.
  4. Silverhair

    For Whom Did Christ Die?

    Not what the bible says ZA but then I have noted that there are a few calvinists on this board that have a real problem understanding the words of God. With reference to 1 John 2:2 The atonement was made for the ones that John was writing to "propitiation for our sins" Then he tells them but...
  5. Silverhair

    How Can Man Be Just With God? God Found a Ransom!

    Christ is the actual propitiation, the actual atonement. But to be saved we have to actually freely trust in what He has done for us. Knowing that He did is not the same as trusting in Him. That is the point you do seem to have a problem wrapping your head around. We were reconciled to God...
  6. Silverhair

    For Whom Did Christ Die?

    Not according to scripture they were not. Now did Christ know who would freely come to Him, of course, He is God after all which means that He is omniscient.
  7. Silverhair

    For Whom Did Christ Die?

    You finally got it right BF. As I have said many times BF. they hear, they believe and then they are saved by God.
  8. Silverhair

    For Whom Did Christ Die?

    God being omniscient knows all those that will freely trust in His name for their salvation. So what Christ is saying here Joh 10:16 fits with what Paul said in Eph 1:13 In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed...
  9. Silverhair

    For Whom Did Christ Die?

    You are funny BF. You continue to deny the clear word of God. Did Christ lay down $50 to by those false teachers BF? Or did He pay the full price via His blood so that even they could be saved through faith in Him? Your continued denial of the truth of God's word is troubling to say the least.
  10. Silverhair

    For Whom Did Christ Die?

    That is not what those verses say BF. Once again you are denying clear scripture. Eph 1:13 In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, Rom 10:9 that if you confess...
  11. Silverhair

    For Whom Did Christ Die?

    @Ben1445 notice how they will deny scripture but then cannot support what they say.
  12. Silverhair

    For Whom Did Christ Die?

    What do you think the words "the Lord who bought them," means BF? Are you not the one that keeps saying the we are bought by the blood of Christ.
  13. Silverhair

    For Whom Did Christ Die?

    Putting salvation before faith. You have a strange way of understanding the word of God. Eph 1:13 In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, Rom 10:9 that if you...
  14. Silverhair

    For Whom Did Christ Die?

    Read the bible BF. Believe what it says not what you want it to say.
  15. Silverhair

    For Whom Did Christ Die?

    I find it amazing how much work the calvinuist will put into denying the clear word of God.
  16. Silverhair

    For Whom Did Christ Die?

    Those that have freely trusted in Christ are those that are given to the son BF. Sorry BF but you are wroong again.
  17. Silverhair

    For Whom Did Christ Die?

    Christ is the propitiation for the whole world, His death covered the sins of all of humanity and appeased the wrath of God. If salvation was not potential but actual, as you have said, for all who are it's object, the whole world, then the whole world has been saved, that is universalism a...
  18. Silverhair

    For Whom Did Christ Die?

    The Gospel For God so loved the world, that He gave His Only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not Perish, but have Eternal Life. For Whom Did Christ Die? HE DIED FOR Mat_9:13; Luk_5:32 died for sinners 1Ti_2:6; Isa_53:6 all Heb_2:9; 1Ti_4:10 every man Joh 3:15...
  19. Silverhair

    For Whom Did Christ Die?

    The burden of proof rests with those who wish to deny an atonement made for all, since the Scriptures plainly say that he did die for all. {1Ti_2:6, Rom_5:6, Rom_5:8} And the bible even gives us the reason He died for all. That all could be saved which is the Fathers desire. {1Ti_2:3-4...
  20. Silverhair

    For Whom Did Christ Die?

    With reference to 1 John 2:2 The atonement was made for the ones that John was writing to "propitiation for our sins" Then he tells them but the atonement was not limited to just them "and not for ours only" Then he tells them who else were to be included "but also for the whole world" That...
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